Proof that the Book of Mormon is a fraud!!!

[A New Dawn]

sounds travels.

 

[Tawhano]

Doc T said:
We use the word "God" to designate the divine community as well as to designate each individual divine person. Thus our understanding of the Godhead coincides closely with what is known in contemporary Christian theology as "social trinitarianism." This, we believe, is the model of the Godhead portrayed in the New Testament. (Dr. David Paulsen)

In other words you believe in more than one god but all these gods are part of a single office called a godhead?

Doc T said:
No we do not worship more than one God. I think the problem everyone is having here is you are trying to understand LDS theology with your EV glasses on or are simply accepting our critics assumptions about us.

So you worship a community of gods and you interpret that as worshipping one god? Why? Why not say you believe in three different gods united under one title and you worship them all in that one title? Is this not what Dr. David Paulsen was saying?

 

[neocon]

......................... I was mormon. I know the teachings. Funny, when I left, my Bishop was very disgusted with my choice and said "So I guess you believe that tripe about God and Jesus being the same person now?" At least he was honest........................

Hmmmm, perhaps your bishop was not particularly up on current mormon theology.

 

[neocon]

................ I have meditated and talked to other gods and godesses.

Sure thats what they TOLD you they were.

HINT: They Lied.

 

[happyinhisgrace]

All christains need to stop being force fed by churches. They need to think for themselfs and try and find a real truth. There IS more than one god, you only know of one cause that is what daddy and mummy told you and then the minister. Have you ever talked to your god, seriously, have you done a meditation and had a one on one conversation with him/her responding in actual words. I havent talked to to him/her yet, however, I have meditated and talked to other gods and godesses.

NO, actually, "daddy and mummy" told me that there was more than one god, they were wrong and so are you.

Isaiah 45
6That they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting
That there is none besides Me.
I am the LORD, and there is no other;

Isaiah 44
8Do not fear, nor be afraid;
Have I not told you from that time, and declared it?
You are My witnesses.
Is there a God besides Me?
Indeed there is no other Rock;
I know not one."'

 

[skylark1]

Why is it when someone other than a christian feels a higher power, they are being missled? I think god wants all to just find peace, and he/she/ even they will do anything possible to help us do so...

It can't be true that there is only one God AND that there other gods. Either one is right, neither are right, or they are both wrong. But they cannot both be right.

Since I believe that the Bible is trustworthy and reliable, I believe that there is only one God, as is stated in scripture.

Since there is only one God, I do not expect for someone to find peace talking to other "gods."

 

[Serapha]

I havent talked to to him/her yet, however, I have meditated and talked to other gods and godesses.

Hi there!




Welcome to the forums...


As a professing Christian, I would point you to this passage in the Bible....


Isaiah 14

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.


Many spirits try to be like the most High...


~serapha~

 

[Serapha]

Why is it when someone other than a christian feels a higher power, they are being missled? I think god wants all to just find peace, and he/she/ even they will do anything possible to help us do so...

Hi there!




There is a reason that Christians would tell unbelievers that they are misled... and it is because Christians have a written word that stands the test of time.

The fulfilled prophecies of the Bible show the Christian that their way is the true way, and therefore when Jesus says, "I am the way, I am the truth..." it can be taken as fact.


I hope that helps in your understanding of Christianity.


~serapha~

 

[skylark1]

Not everything is black and white...there is gray, not all religions put themselves above all others. Some are just guides to peace and love. To say the Bible has no possible mistakes, is a mistake itself. Even something inspired by God can be written down wrong, then people can misunderstand the texts completely.

And so what if there is "one god" you all say god is limitless, so that can mean God could reac you in anyway he wants. Im SURE a god would want us to find peace and Im sure whatevers up there will try to guide us to it in a way we will follow..

I agree that not all things are black and white. However, some things are exactly that. I do not believe that if there is only one God that he would choose to communicate with people through false gods. I don't think that Christians put themselves above other people. It was Jesus who said that he is the only way to the Father, and if we follow his teachings we should be putting others above ourselves.

Are you a Christian?

 

[jezusfreak]

Hi there!




There is a reason that Christians would tell unbelievers that they are misled... and it is because Christians have a written word that stands the test of time.

The fulfilled prophecies of the Bible show the Christian that their way is the true way, and therefore when Jesus says, "I am the way, I am the truth..." it can be taken as fact.

Awesome post, Serapha. He is the way the truth and the life...and we come to the Father because of and through him.

 

[happyinhisgrace]

If its god, and god is limitless then its not a false god..I don't just pray to god or meditate to him I pray for the world, for life itself, and for everything that lives. Cause life is the best thing anyone will ever have.

You think that this life is the best thing anyone will ever have? How depressing! I thank God for His truth that those who come to Jesus and put their trust in Him for salvation will have a life in Heaven with God, after this life, that will be so much better than this one. How awful to think that this life where people suffer, hunger, thirst, sorrow and grieve is the best that anyone will ever know!!!

 

[Mea Culpa]

Here is one. It is not heavy, but it is awkward.

Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

What's awkward about this?

This was before man sinned. so they walked with God. I personally believe it was the preincarnate Christ.

When they sinned, they no longer had this kind of relationship with Christ, and God created blood sacrafices to cover thier sins. They were the first recipients of blood sacrafices, because God had to kill lambs or something (can't remember what it was) to cover their shame.

 

[Serapha]

Jenda

Here is one. It is not heavy, but it is awkward.

Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

Hi there!

Parse the sentence or in English terms, diagram it as taught in middle school.


And

They heard the voice

subject /verb /object (voice of who?)

the voice of the Lord God

(which Lord God?)

the Lord God who was walking

(walking where?)

walking in the Garden

(walking when?)

walking in the cool

(which type of cool?)

the cool of the day.

 

[happyinhisgrace]

Oh, you forget about hell...where of corse "most people will go". Thats suffering FOREVER.

Life IS the best thing we are given. It can be bad for some people, but it's not ment to be that way. You should consider yourself lucky.

Do you know what makes life so wonderful? There is good and bad, without any bad at all, the good would never be so good, and life would be pretty boring. I have found heaven on earth with my friends, and if I can't be with them in afterlife or rebirth, than thats not really a heaven to me.

Nothing is better than living life, falling in love, having kids, seeing things and learning. You have to realize that life is a gift. Life on earth is short, so do god a favor and enjoy it.

There IS something better than this life on earth and it is life in Heaven with Jesus.

Yes, hell is a very real place and there will be many who end up there. I wish that everyone would come to Jesus but I can't make another persons choices for them. There is only one way to God and to Heaven and that way is Jesus. There is no excuse for not coming to Jesus. The choice is yours and everyone else's that refuses him for their salvation.

 

[A New Dawn]

Hi there!

Parse the sentence or in English terms, diagram it as taught in middle school.


And

They heard the voice

subject /verb /object (voice of who?)

the voice of the Lord God

(which Lord God?)

the Lord God who was walking

(walking where?)

walking in the Garden

(walking when?)

walking in the cool

(which type of cool?)

the cool of the day.

Unfortunately, that is not what the verse says without twisting it one way or the other.

 

[A New Dawn]

What's awkward about this?

This was before man sinned. so they walked with God. I personally believe it was the preincarnate Christ.

When they sinned, they no longer had this kind of relationship with Christ, and God created blood sacrafices to cover thier sins. They were the first recipients of blood sacrafices, because God had to kill lambs or something (can't remember what it was) to cover their shame.

All of you all are inserting words (or meanings) into this verse in your mind. Read it word by word and see what is missing.

 

[happyinhisgrace]

Just enjoy life, once your time is up on earth, it's gone, forever. If you fail to enjoy life, and can't bring yourself to realize life on this earth is a wonderful gift when your older and unable your gonna wish you did more. Right now, I have a "list" of things I wanna do before I pass, and if I can't leave something behind for someone else to enjoy, than the time spent here was wasted.

I enjoy my life VERY much but I also know there is a better one on the way.

Time spent coming to Jesus and then having His Holy Spirit within you, is NEVER time wasted. I pray that you come to the Lord and find that out for yourself and that you too will realize that this life is NOT all there is. For those who are in Christ Jesus, a better life awaits!!!!!!

 

[Serapha]

Just enjoy life, once your time is up on earth, it's gone, forever. If you fail to enjoy life, and can't bring yourself to realize life on this earth is a wonderful gift when your older and unable your gonna wish you did more. Right now, I have a "list" of things I wanna do before I pass, and if I can't leave something behind for someone else to enjoy, than the time spent here was wasted.

Hi there!




But I enjoy serving the Lord... the reason that is, is because everything in this world is destructible, and God promises a life eternal that will never be destroyed.

(remember, the fulfilled prophecies proved the Bible again and again to be true)


~serapha~

 

[happyinhisgrace]

You see this is the problem.

1)How do you know what I accept? And please don't pray for me, I don't need it I have my own religious path and youre just gonna have to accept it. I'm just saying that people need to put more into their time on earth and leave something good behind.

From the things you have said in your posts, it is clear that you have not accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior. If you had, you would know there is something even better than anything wonderful this life has to offer.

Everyone needs prayer even if they don't think they do.

 

[oldrooster]

From the things you have said in your posts, it is clear that you have not accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior. If you had, you would know there is something even better than anything wonderful this life has to offer.

Everyone needs prayer even if they don't think they do.

Amen....