Proof that God exists?

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by someguy14 If your so interested in testing it, go to God. Man fails. God doesn't.

Your posts fail. Does your god want you to push people away from religion like this?

Just put this guy on your ignore list. I think he's already on the ignore list of three people, including me.
If enough people do this, he will probably stop posting.

Any bets on that?

Hosaiah 4:6 My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests;
because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children.

 

[dlamberth]

Hosaiah 4:6 My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests;
because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children.

For Lovers of God, Knowledge of God is very important. In real life, there are way to many people who claim that knowledge yet in the way they speak or in the way they act it's clear that they don't have a clue. Those people I ignore.

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[Davian]

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When Elioenal posted Knowledge of the truth gives me warrant for speaking as I do.he is telling you about the truth that he knows to be true. Truth from his God and his bible. Why can't you just accept this and respect his right to believe as he wants? So he appears to have been deceived? By what standards are you judging this?

He can believe what he wants, until he tries to impose his "truth" on to me, which he has done.

He has not substantiated this claim of "truth", and all of his arguments in support of it have been shown to be faulty by myself and others.

And unlike Elioenal26, I do not claim to know what others think, so I presume that what he says in his posts is sincere. What I am to make of someone that sincerely believes things that he cannot demonstrate as true, and, by his own admission, can contradict established science?

 

[Elioenai26]

He can believe what he wants, until he tries to impose his "truth" on to me, which he has done.

He has not substantiated this claim of "truth", and all of his arguments in support of it have been shown to be faulty by myself and others.

And unlike Elioenal26, I do not claim to know what others think, so I presume that what he says in his posts is sincere. What I am to make of someone that sincerely believes things that he cannot demonstrate as true, and, by his own admission, can contradict established science?

How can anyone impose anything upon you?

Do I claim that atheists impose their naturalistic views on me or any other Christian?

You also repeatedly speak of demonstration. Ok...

Demonstrate to me why I should accept what you are saying as true?

I shall be waiting.

 

[Davian]

Time will tell.

Death follows us closely.

I have spent the morning among the cries of pain and suffering and sorrow of those in a hospital emergency room.

We die but once, and a miscarriage there is irretrievable.

Time has already told. Your "truth", as you have presented it, is just more religion.

I understand your fear of death is in part why you embrace religion. Other than my instinct for self-preservation, which we share with other animals, I do not fear death.

I have been in the emergency room, holding my father's unconscious body in my arms. It never occurred to me to look to religion for comfort. (he has since recovered).

We only live once, and if it is done in deception, it is wasted.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates

 

[Elioenai26]

Time has already told. Your "truth", as you have presented it, is just more religion.

I understand your fear of death is in part why you embrace religion. Other than my instinct for self-preservation, which we share with other animals, I do not fear death.

I have been in the emergency room, holding my father's unconscious body in my arms. It never occurred to me to look to religion for comfort. (he has since recovered).

We only live once, and if it is done in deception, it is wasted.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates

Time has shown us that no one can escape death. It is appointed unto men once to die, and then comes the judgment.

One day your father will die. You will too die, as I will (if Christ does not return before), and so will your wife and everyone else you love.

We die but once Davian, a miscarriage there is irretrievable. When you die and stand before Christ, there will be no time for repentance or cries for mercy.

That is why I caution you and implore you to be reconciled to God.

 

[Davian]

Time has shown us that no one can escape death. It is appointed unto men once to die, and then comes the judgment.

One day your father will die. You will too die, as I will (if Christ does not return before), and so will your wife and everyone else you love.

We die but once Davian, a miscarriage there is irretrievable. When you die and stand before Christ, there will be no time for repentance or cries for mercy.

That is why I caution you and implore you to be reconciled to God.

So you post more religion.

Let me be blunt: Elioenai26, are you afraid of Darth Vader?

 

[Elioenai26]

So you post more religion.

Let me be blunt: Elioenai26, are you afraid of Darth Vader?

No I am not afraid of death, for I have already died.

 

[Davian]

No I am not afraid of death, for I have already died.

Are you afraid of Darth Vader?

 

[Elioenai26]

Are you afraid of Darth Vader?

No, I am not afraid of Darth Vader.

 

[Davian]

No, I am not afraid of Darth Vader.

Why not?

 

[Elioenai26]

Why not?

Because I do not fear man whose breath is in his nostrils, and who, after killing the body, can do no more; but God who has the ability to cast both body and soul into hell.

 

[Davian]

How can anyone impose anything upon you?

Do I claim that atheists impose their naturalistic views on me or any other Christian?

You also repeatedly speak of demonstration. Ok...

Demonstrate to me why I should accept what you are saying as true?

I shall be waiting.

I am not the one making the truth claims.

People impose their beliefs on others through fear, intimidation, indoctrination, appeal to emotion, argumentation, to mention a few. Do you not recall the occasions on which you told me what I believed to be true? Tried to, anyway.

 

[Elioenai26]

I am not the one making the truth claims.

People impose their beliefs on others through fear, intimidation, indoctrination, appeal to emotion, argumentation, to mention a few. Do you not recall the occasions on which you told me what I believed to be true? Tried to, anyway.

Just not in any way you can demonstrate.

 

[Elioenai26]

Good night Mr. Davian, im going to rest a bit.

If God wills, I shall correspond with you on the morrow.

 

[Davian]

Because I do not fear man whose breath is in his nostrils, and who, after killing the body, can do no more; but God who has the ability to cast both body and soul into hell.

Do you think Darth Vader is real?

 

[Davian]

Good night Mr. Davian, im going to rest a bit.

If God wills, I shall correspond with you on the morrow.

Later then - batteries are about dead on this iPad and the kids gotta get out of the pool.

 

[Davian]

I am not the one making the truth claims.

People impose their beliefs on others through fear, intimidation, indoctrination, appeal to emotion, argumentation, to mention a few. Do you not recall the occasions on which you told me what I believed to be true? Tried to, anyway.

Just not in any way you can demonstrate.

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However, I do not have to demonstrate the things I am saying to you because you know them to be true.
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This will do.

 

[Danyc]

I wonder if Elio will ever see his error here. Perhaps it's akin to missing the glasses on your face.

I suppose that's really the only reason to continue this. I've had as much entertainment from this thread as I'm going to get. Now it's just becoming absurd.

 

[someguy14]

I understand your fear of death is in part why you embrace religion.

To live is Christ, and to die is gain.