Promise me, that if Evolution doesn't work out, you will come back to considering "Creation"?

[AV1611VET]

The most probable reason is that the poll is so poorly constructed, being ambiguous, restricted in choice, strongly biased and generally inept, that many members simply ignore it.

Yes it is. See above.

Note: italicised words in square brackets are added by me to clarify what AV's posts were responding to.

I just think CREATION is so anathema to evolutionists, they can't stomach the idea of having to vote in favor of it.

 

[AV1611VET]

If a scientific theory is debunked / disproven.
You take the existing evidence & new evidence that disproved the old theory and come up with a new explanation that fits all Evidence.

And that "new explanation" would be what exactly?

 

[Ophiolite]

I just think CREATION is so anathema to evolutionists, they can't stomach the idea of voting in favor of it.

You don't half talk nonsense some of the time! The poll offers a false dichotomy. The alternative to a failed theory of evolution is not creation. Well, it is one alternative, but it is not the one that would logically occur to a former evolutionist. And having just spent some time thinking about it, I can't come up with any sensible reason why it would.

 

[Ophiolite]

And that "new explanation" would be what exactly?

See! Another silly post. The new explanation would arise out of the situation where evolution had been falsified. In the absence of such an event it is impractical to come up with such an alternative and fatuous of you to ask for one.

 

[AV1611VET]

You don't half talk nonsense some of the time! The poll offers a false dichotomy. The alternative to a failed theory of evolution is not creation. Well, it is one alternative, but it is not the one that would logically occur to a former evolutionist. And having just spent some time thinking about it, I can't come up with any sensible reason why it would.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[AV1611VET]

See! Another silly post. The new explanation would arise out of the situation where evolution had been falsified. In the absence of such an event it is impractical to come up with such an alternative and fatuous of you to ask for one.

So nothing in the poll choices (like, you know, OTHER) that strikes your fancy?

 

[pgp_protector]

And that "new explanation" would be what exactly?

What part of my post did you Not understand?

 

[AV1611VET]

What part of my post did you Not understand?

I got it quite well.

But suppose I posted the following poll:

Hypothetical: 1 + 1 = ?

Assuming 2 is not the correct answer, what would your answer be?

1. 11
2. n
3. 42
4. other

Wouldn't it be disrespectful for people to lecture me on how 1 + 1 should equal 2?

I'm not looking for a lecture, I'm looking for votes.

 

[pgp_protector]

I got it quite well.

But suppose I posted the following poll:

Hypothetical: 1 + 1 = ?

Assuming 2 is not the correct answer, what would your answer be?

1. 11
2. n
3. 42
4. other

Wouldn't it be disrespectful for people to lecture me on how 1 + 1 should equal 2?

I'm not looking for a lecture, I'm looking for votes.

If a scientific theory is debunked / disproven.
You take the existing evidence & new evidence that disproved the old theory and come up with a new explanation that fits all Evidence.

 

[Ophiolite]

So nothing in the poll choices (like, you know, OTHER) that strikes your fancy?

I voted Other. But when the Miscellaneous (Other) Category generates more responses than many of the primary categories then you know it was a badly designed poll. If you cannot see that, I cannot help you.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I just think CREATION is so anathema to evolutionists, they can't stomach the idea of having to vote in favor of it.

And you would be wrong.

 

[AV1611VET]

If a scientific theory is debunked / disproven.
You take the existing evidence & new evidence that disproved the old theory and come up with a new explanation that fits all Evidence.

Fine. I got it. Gottservant (and I) would like to know if you think that "existing evidence" will be CREATION, or something else.

I realize you don't know what that "existing evidence" is, but I'm curious to see if the theory of life's origin has a backup or not.

 

[AV1611VET]

And you would be wrong.

I think this thread ... and the poll specifically ... is good evidence otherwise.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I think this thread ... and the poll specifically ... is good evidence otherwise.

And I think that you are completely wrong in that regard.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Fine. I got it. Gottservant (and I) would like to know if you think that "existing evidence" will be CREATION, or something else.

I realize you don't know what that "existing evidence" is, but I'm curious to see if the theory of life's origin has a backup or not.

CREATION is the claim not the evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

I voted Other. But when the Miscellaneous (Other) Category generates more responses than many of the primary categories then you know it was a badly designed poll. If you cannot see that, I cannot help you.

I'm going to disagree.

This thread speaks more about creation/evolution than you can imagine.

It exposes the fact that, if you hypothetically take away such a strong theory, people are caught off-guard with not having a viable backup.

In addition, I think the only viable backup is CREATION, and I get a very, very strong impression that CREATION is anathema to evolutionists.

So anathema, that they can't stomach having to vote in favor of it.

You can disagree all you want, but that just QEDs what I'm saying.

 

[pgp_protector]

Fine. I got it. Gottservant (and I) would like to know if you think that "existing evidence" will be CREATION, or something else.

That's nice.

I realize you don't know what that "existing evidence" is, but I'm curious to see if the theory of life's origin has a backup or not.

Until the new evidence is provided, the current theory stands.

 

[AV1611VET]

And I think that you are completely wrong in that regard.

Which doesn't surprise me.

 

[AV1611VET]

CREATION is the claim not the evidence.

But will that evidence lead to CREATION?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Which doesn't surprise me.

And it doesn't surprise me that you think this nonsense is worth praising.