lux et lex
light and law
To lux et lex,
So your answer tro my question is which, two boys are or arent people?
except that it does, so what is your point? NO IT DOESNT.
The persons life starts at conception and gestation from where it develops through its life. I was a person at the foetus stage of my life, the Bible says God knows ud in the womb. Already one poster has said they were not themselves when they were a foetus which is ridiculous as the foetus would only ever develop into who they are now. For the foetus not to be a person one could not determine who the foetus will eventually be. Without the foetus the person will not develop.
I never said you did, the question was is a boy a person. Yes or no. If a boy is a person then the Bible says the boy, who is a person, was in the womb so life doesnt begin at birth.
I didnt say common sense either, I am leaning on my own common sense and its in line with reality and the Bible, as to ones own common sense as opposed to Gods word the Bible says trust Gods word.
Ok but thats what pro-choice is and what I am arguing against. I dont think that has been disputed.
That means nothing.
I feel like I've been answering the same questions over and over again, and you're not getting it. My times of doing this are coming to a close, so read closely.
In the quoted verse, it said something along the lines of it was discovered at birth that she was carrying two boys in her womb. By the time this was discovered it is presumed the boys were born or in the process where one would be able to tell. Were they male before they were born? Yes. Were they persons before they were born? No. This seems pretty cut and dried to me, I'm not sure why you aren't understanding what I'm saying.
You just said without the fetus a person would not develop. AH HA so even you are admitting that a fetus is not a person. Glad we're finally on the same page here. With that admittance I have nothing more to say on that fact, and you have proven my point. Thank you.
A boy would be a person, however, what you have built as a question to me is a straw man. What you are really dealing with is a male fetus. Which is still not a person, and we agreed on that after you admitted that without the fetus a person would not develop. Personhood is acquired with the first breath.
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