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Prevenient Grace: What is it?
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Some say it's the grace given to all mankind which enables them to take a step towards God.
My problem is that the Bible says all men are opposed to God. If they all, without exception have prevenient grace from the outset then something doesn't ring true. None of them would be opposed to God.
I thought elsewhere you have said that "all" means "some"? Is the switch here to the generalization a matter of convenience? John 3:17 says "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." Maybe He was mistaken or meant something different.
Paul
My problem is that the Bible says all men are opposed to God. If they all, without exception have prevenient grace from the outset then something doesn't ring true. None of them would be opposed to God.
I thought elsewhere you have said that "all" means "some"? Is the switch here to the generalization a matter of convenience? John 3:17 says "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." Maybe He was mistaken or meant something different.
Paul
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Acts 7:51-52
"You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit!
What is the Holy Spirit doing for them that they are resisting?
"You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit!
What is the Holy Spirit doing for them that they are resisting?
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The Holy Spirit is waiting for God to to draw them in His own time. Faith comes by hearing and only to those who have ears to hear....Jesus says, 'He stands and knocks at the door of our hearts. If we hear, we are warned to let Him in and sup (fellowship), with Him and the Father. And He also warns that if we hear but don't respond, our hearts will harden, thus making it more difficult for ourselves....
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Rev. 3
19Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent. 20Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.
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Mocking is a bit strong. Just having some fun. Especially since the scriptures say nothing of the sort.
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Not quibbling. Just saying that the verse doesn't say what you say it says.
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Perfect example of ignoring the sin in your own camp, so to speak, in order to accomplish the bigger goal of destroying Calvinism. Why don't you help your fellow synergist understand Rev. 3:20?
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How am I, with what I have just said, trying to destroy Calvinism?
What sin griff? You have completely lost me.
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