I’ve lived in coal country and coal isn’t coming back any more than steam-powered river boats.It's really instructive to read the first part of that article closely. Note--
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President Trump on Thursday signed legislation ending a key Obama administration coal mining rule.
The bill quashes the Office of Surface Mining's Stream Protection Rule, a regulation to protect waterways from coal mining waste that officials finalized in December.
The legislation is the second Trump has signed into law ending an Obama-era environmental regulation.
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And if we are interested in who is benefitted by such a change, it would be thousands of workers, union members, in what is one of the poorest states in the Union--in other words, exactly the kind of people the Democrats want everyone to think their party is unique in looking out for.
Job wise the losses are gone Now. Period. Trump or no Trump. Did you read the story I linked?In the long run that's true, but we could say the same thing about plenty of other policies the government maintains for the benefit of its citizens.
Well and coal should go away. First miners have usually short lives because of both the danger AND the enviomental side, but also coal is going to run out anyway, and so at some point enveinmental issue or not health issues or not those jobs will disappear.Job wise the losses are gone Now. Period. Trump or no Trump. Did you read the story I linked?
When that happens, we'll take stock of the situation and decide what to do.Well and coal should go away. First miners have usually short lives because of both the danger AND the enviomental side, but also coal is going to run out anyway, and so at some point enveinmental issue or not health issues or not those jobs will disappear.
mark46 said:Please list ANY changes that are effective now. Then, we might comment on who benefited.
Albion said:Its been a while since you wrote the above, but generalizations like that or the more recent claims about people being benefitted by unnamed changes do make any discussion difficult to sustain, as Mark indicated.FredVB said:The point is still that it can be seen Donald Trump's approval rating is low, the polls show it, and none were as high as you were claiming that it actually was. And it is a claim that a poll is bad without it shown that such particular poll actually is.
That is what they said about natural gas. Now it turns out that there is an abundance of natural gas. All that we could ever want or need. They converted coal furnace to gas a long time ago. I have not had to shovel coal into a furnace for almost 50 years now. It was a nice business at one time. My great grandfather use to have a six team horse to deliver coal to the people houses.also coal is going to run out anyway,
How much support does Trump have with the families being divided at the border?
Trump fans say 1) it didn't happen, 2) Obama did it, 3) they deserve it, 4)How much support does Trump have with the families being divided at the border?
It's really instructive to read the first part of that article closely. Note--
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President Trump on Thursday signed legislation ending a key Obama administration coal mining rule.
The bill quashes the Office of Surface Mining's Stream Protection Rule, a regulation to protect waterways from coal mining waste that officials finalized in December.
The legislation is the second Trump has signed into law ending an Obama-era environmental regulation.
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First, it is legislation, passed by Congress, not a rule hurried into place after the election of 2016. We should applaud that.
And if we are interested in who is benefitted by such a change, it would be thousands of workers, union members, in what is one of the poorest states in the Union--in other words, exactly the kind of people the Democrats want everyone to think their party is unique in looking out for.
Even with all that government has done to suppress coal mining, coal still accounts for over 30% of American electricity production. Only natural gas exceeds it--but barely. No other energy source even comes close.
This isn't analogous to the buggy whip industry; not by a longshot!
FredVB said:How much support does Trump have with the families being divided at the border?
brinny said:Families? You mean the "coyotes" that have been paid to brings others children here, and on the way these children get raped, abused, and used, channeled into child sex trafficking etc., and the little girls are given pills to deal with any pregnancies?
Do you know what "coyotes" are?
You mean "illegal trespassers", Fred?
DaisyDay said:Trump fans say 1) it didn't happen, 2) Obama did it, 3) they deserve it, 4)Hillary! (emails, Benghazi, she lost!!!!, lock her up, she colluded), 5) big deal - he's reuniting them now, the ones who deserve to be reunited and 6) build the wall!
Donald foes say 1) it's cruel and inhumane.
Not all conservative Christians are this way, but I saw that there were such Christians starting to ask each other about if they would vote for Trump, instead of talking of Christian subjects and values, at the time of the election, and discussion among such Christians is more political since then. But this may be with ideas that some president would always be good for America from God providing according to God's will. It avoids that we are responsible for our part in having leaders represent us. Christianity isn't having good representation the way it is.
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