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Mark 8 ...And a leper came to Him and bowed down before Him, and said, Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean. (The leper knew he was ABLE to heal him, but not sure if he would.) Jesus stretched out His hand and touched him, saying, I am willing; be cleansed. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed...Sometimes we know God can, but oftentimes we wonder if He will... But Jesus is always willing.. No matter how "unclean" we may be..
These signs will follow the believers: they will lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. We have authority over sickness and can use it. He healed all that were oppressed by the devil. Give me one text where Jesus said to someone: No I don't want to heal you for this and this good reason.
It makes no sense to me that He wouldn't want to heal me or anybody else. If it's their time, okay, but for the rest.. He just gave us the power to heal the sick. What is there to ask if it is His will?
In Romans 8 we see that paul teaches us that we will endure hardship and suffering. Paul is not promising that we will be free of those things but he is promising that it will not separate us from Christ and Gods love. This scripture is not promising that we will not have hardship, its instead promising that we will have love from God despite what may happen to us on earth. Look at what paul talks about- famine, death, persecution, trouble. Nothing in this world can separate us from Gods love although this world will destroy our bodies. Look at this scripture, it doesn't seem to paint an image of life more abundantly on earth. To the contrary, it seems to suggest that we will not always escape the woes of life, but the Lord will still be with us.
Romans 8:5 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:
“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[j]
37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Maybe its not necessarily a problem with their faith but instead their doctrine. Maybe they just need to prove all things as paul says. We all have problems with our doctrine, we all need to learn more i think. I think when we follow preachers and theologians then we will be following fallible men. WE sometimes think that a book written by some famous theologian or some famous preacher who started some denomination or movement, is infallible. However those books do contain some error and the only infallible book of doctrine is the scripture itself. If we learn from a fallible book that teaches us what the bible says then we are learning from a fallible man. But if we learn from the bible itself then we have a pure source. We may misunderstand the bible too at times but at least we know that its not the scriptures fault, but instead its our fault. However if we follow the misunderstandings of other men by following their books then its our fault or perhaps the fault of the author. My point is that if we learn from the bible then perhaps our misunderstanding will be diminished, but if learn from other fallible men then our misunderstanding may be multiplied rather than diminished.
That is because many would not accept the healing.
Jesus can not heal if you are unwilling to accept the healing.
His hometown people rejected him and would not accept him as one who heals.
They wanted nothing to do with him or the idea of healing from him.
Faith delivered paul from the stonings he endured, yet faith didnt deliver stephan from the stoning which killed him. He was spirit filled yet he still died. The point is not if we escape anything that this world may do to our body, the point is that we must walk in faith that we are going to heaven where our bodies will not grow old and die anymore. Thats faith
Where does scripture say that sickness is considered hardship or suffering though?
I can show you scripture that says Jesus' blood paid for our healing Matthew 8:17 and that a benefit of knowing God personally is healing Psalm 103:3
Where does scripture say that sickness is considered hardship or suffering though?
I can show you scripture that says Jesus' blood paid for our healing Matthew 8:17 and that a benefit of knowing God personally is healing Psalm 103:3
Exactly looking at what is not seen. Again, sawed in 2 by faith, Heb 11.
Even Abe, our faith father, was in the land, but he still looked for a greater city. Hebrews talks about not having a continuing city HERE...
Paul talked about these present sufferings how they can't be compared to the real glory coming.
Its good to move forward in faith, love and hope, despite what we may go through. Faith wont always fix our problems but faith will help us endure.
Trying to rationalize when God heals and when he doesn't isn't faith...
Faith says every time that God will heal and believes it. Do you really try to "pray" for the sick and not believe God will heal them every time?
If you do not approach healing every time with faith that healing will come, then that is not faith. Compassion maybe. Sympathy perhaps, but not faith.
Faith doesn't deal with maybe's or shoulda's,....
Faith believes... 100%... every time!
So sorry, this stuff about "suffering and persecution", "trials and tribulations" or whatever other religious sounding words you want to use, isn't faith. It is veiled doubt at best.
Trying to rationalize when God heals and when he doesn't isn't faith...
Faith says every time that God will heal and believes it. Do you really try to "pray" for the sick and not believe God will heal them every time?
If you do not approach healing every time with faith that healing will come, then that is not faith. Compassion maybe. Sympathy perhaps, but not faith.
Faith doesn't deal with maybe's or shoulda's,....
Faith believes... 100%... every time!
So sorry, this stuff about "suffering and persecution", "trials and tribulations" or whatever other religious sounding words you want to use, isn't faith. It is veiled doubt at best.
That just doesn't add up. You yourself are saying you have no faith because you yourself know you have prayed for healing in others and it didn't always come to pass. So your own definition says that you have no faith. Likewise, the gift of healing isnt given to everyone either. Paul didnt tell timothy to go seek a healer, he said to take medication. I dont understand the need to define faith by miracles. When paul told timothy to fight the good fight of faith he mentioned many things. Those things are what faith is for. Why is faith defined only by miracles?
Was Timothy sick and needed healing when Paul advised wine for his stomach's sake? Aren't you reading into the scripture what isn't there?
He said his stomach and often infirmities. He had multiple things going on perhaps. That is what the scripture seems to suggest.
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