Pope, King of the world?

[simonthezealot]

The Pope, King of the world?
Ever read the Bull Unam Sanctum?
Check it out, especially the last part.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html


Along those lines take a look also at this...Also...

From the Source:Lucius Ferraris "Papa," art. 2, in his Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica. ("Handy Library"), Vol. 5, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition, column 1823, Latin.

#1. "The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God."

#13. "Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."

#18. "As to papal authority, the Pope is as it were God on earth, Sole sovereign of all the faithful of Christ, chief king of kings, having a plentitude of unbroken power, entrusted by the omnipotent God to govern the earthly and heavenly kingdoms."

#30. "The Pope is of so great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws."

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

#30. "The Pope is of so great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws."

ACCCKKKK! Not another Pope thread! Perhaps we need a board just on the Pope as there is for Mary and call it "Popeology".
This is one reason I am going to be posting less on GT in the future.

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[spiritman]

The Pope, King of the world?
Ever read the Bull Unam Sanctum?
Check it out, especially the last part.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html


Along those lines take a look also at this...Also...

From the Source:Lucius Ferraris "Papa," art. 2, in his Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica. ("Handy Library"), Vol. 5, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition, column 1823, Latin.

#1. "The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God."

#13. "Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."

#18. "As to papal authority, the Pope is as it were God on earth, Sole sovereign of all the faithful of Christ, chief king of kings, having a plentitude of unbroken power, entrusted by the omnipotent God to govern the earthly and heavenly kingdoms."

#30. "The Pope is of so great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws."

This is why people ignorantly worship him. Its blasphemous to say the least. Is this the setup for the antichrist?

 

[Dark_Lite]

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15126a.htm

I think the last part of the last paragraph answers your questions.

 

[simonthezealot]

This is why people ignorantly worship him. Its blasphemous to say the least. Is this the setup for the antichrist?

The lutheran confession said this for many many years I believe its still in one of them.

I don't necessarily believe it, though after the rapture Her remnants and that of the remaining "Christians" will likely align underneath her.

 

[simonthezealot]

ACCCKKKK! Not another Pope thread! Perhaps we need a board just on the Pope as there is for Mary and call it "Popeology".

dupe

 

[spiritman]

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15126a.htm

I think the last part of the last paragraph answers your questions.

So, none of it applies today?

 

[simonthezealot]

From the "Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma"
“The Pope possesses full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the whole Church, not merely in matters of faith and morals, but also in church discipline and in the government of the Church.” The Vatican Council declared interpreting that, “If anyone shall say that the Roman Pontiff has the office merely of inspection and direction and not a full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the universal Church, not only in things which belong to faith and morals, but also in those which relate to the disciplining government of the Church spread throughout the world, or assert that he possesses merely the principle part and not the fullness of this supreme power, or that this power which he enjoys is not ordinary and immediate, both over each and all the Churches and over each and all the pastors and the faithful, let him be anathema.”

 

[GuardianShua]

The Pope, King of the world?
Ever read the Bull Unam Sanctum?
Check it out, especially the last part.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html


Along those lines take a look also at this...Also...

From the Source:Lucius Ferraris "Papa," art. 2, in his Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica. ("Handy Library"), Vol. 5, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition, column 1823, Latin.

#1. "The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God."

#13. "Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."

#18. "As to papal authority, the Pope is as it were God on earth, Sole sovereign of all the faithful of Christ, chief king of kings, having a plentitude of unbroken power, entrusted by the omnipotent God to govern the earthly and heavenly kingdoms."

#30. "The Pope is of so great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws."

Number #30 means that the Pope has the authority to alter scripture. I would like to remind everyone that it was the papacy that canonized scripture. And so when I speak out against certain doctrines, I get the deer in the headlight look. Learn to read between the line people. Some times what is not said is as important as what has been said.

 

[Tu Es Petrus]

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Why do you guys make so many threads on the pope?
I believe you all have pope envy.

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[tadoflamb]

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Why do you guys make so many threads on the pope?
I believe you all have pope envy.

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Seems like the pope is an unifying element no matter what side of the Tiber you fall.

 

[WarriorAngel]

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Why do you guys make so many threads on the pope?
I believe you all have pope envy.

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I almost spit my tea all over the monitor.

 

[GuardianShua]

The Pope, King of the world?
Ever read the Bull Unam Sanctum?
Check it out, especially the last part.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html

I like your post so much that I barrowed part of it. Your post shows me that you are thinking.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

ooops no post. Forgot I unsubscribed ehehe.....

 

[Sphinx777]

ACCCKKKK! Not another Pope thread! Perhaps we need a board just on the Pope as there is for Mary and call it "Popeology".

All of the threads that discuss and debate the ecclesiastical office of the Papacy should be moved to Ecclesiology...

 

[spiritman]

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Why do you guys make so many threads on the pope?
I believe you all have pope envy.

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Hi friend,

Do you believe this statement?

#13. "Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Hi friend,

Do you believe this statement?

#13. "Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."

Hail the Lion and Pope!!!

Reve 5:3 And no-one was able in the heaven nor upon the land nor under-neath the land to open-up the Scroll neither to be beholding it.
5 And one out of the elders saying to me "no be lamenting! behold! conquers the Lion, the out of the tribe of Judah the root of David to open-up the scroll and the seven seals of it".

 

[Sphinx777]

#13. "Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."

There is no certainty about what the three crowns of the Triple Tiara symbolise, as is evident from the multitude of interpretations that have been and still are proposed. Some link it to the threefold authority of the "Supreme Pontiff: Universal Pastor (top), Universal Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction (middle) and Temporal Power (bottom)". Others interpret the three tiers as meaning "Father of princes and kings, Ruler of the world, Vicar of our Saviour Jesus Christ". When popes were crowned, the following words were used:

Accipe tiaram tribus coronis ornatam, et scias te esse Patrem Principum et Regnum, Rectorem Orbis, in terra Vicarium Salvatoris Nostri Jesu Christi, cui est honor et gloria in sæcula sæculorum.

(Receive the tiara adorned with three crowns and know that thou art Father of Princes and Kings, Ruler of the World, Vicar of Our Savior Jesus Christ in earth, to whom is honor and glory in the ages of ages.)

Yet others have associated it with the threefold office of Christ, who is Priest, Prophet and King, an association mentioned as a possibility by Pope John Paul II in his Inauguration homily, or "teacher, lawmaker and judge". Another traditional interpretation was that the three crowns refer to the "Church Militant on earth", the "Church Suffering after death and before heaven", and the "Church Triumphant in eternal reward". Yet another interpretation suggested by Archbishop Cordero Lanza di Montezemolo, who designed Pope Benedict XVI's tiara-less coat of arms, was "order, jurisdiction and magisterum", while a further theory links the three tiers to the "celestial, human and terrestrial worlds," which the pope is supposed to symbolically link.

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[Tu Es Petrus]

I like your post so much that I barrowed part of it. Your post shows me that you are thinking.

Why, because he linked to a document he doesn't understand? If that's thinking, then I'm Einstein

 

[Tu Es Petrus]

Hi friend,

Do you believe this statement?

#13. "Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions."

I would have to read it in context. I've seen protestants say all kinds of whacky things that make sense to them

But I can say this: As keeper of the keys, his jurisdiction is over the entire Church, in heaven, on earth, and in Purgatory. And He does represent Christ the King. So if I really stretch it, I could say that I believe the statement, although I would have worded it differently myself.