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This is atrocious. How is this an upgrade? Please go back to the original site structure or I will not want to hang out here anymore. Literally everything about this is worse.

Edit: and why are there suggestions for similar topics/threads dating back all the way to 2005? That's insane.
 

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If you want to improve something, move the post number back up to the top right of the post.
Having it sit in the middle of the right hand margin is a distraction.
Yours isn't here?
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Yes there is. I appreciate the fact that the info has remained visible through these changes.
It not only provides information, but it's second purpose is to show site continuity and stability.
When people stick around for years, that tells you that they care, they feel valued, and they are listened to by the site owners, especially on a Christian site!

Well, i see its been changed now...much better
 
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This is atrocious. How is this an upgrade? Please go back to the original site structure or I will not want to hang out here anymore. Literally everything about this is worse.

Edit: and why are there suggestions for similar topics/threads dating back all the way to 2005? That's insane.
It is really atrocious!
Do you know the German word "verschlimmbessern"?
It means: Make something a lot worse - by incompetent ways to try to improve things.
 
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At the bottom of this page on the left side, there's a toggle switch.
I just now tried that. The quotes now have a black background and white lettering, but the posts have a white background with very slightly whiter letters that are nearly invisible.
 
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Another issue I noticed is that when posting, the area to post in is darker than the surrounding area. Usually, the post being quoted was in a darker shaded area than the post being made. Now it's reversed, and that makes it a bit confusing as to where to start typing. Also, once the post is submitted, the post and the quoted portion have the same background. The inconsistency there adds to the confusion.

Also in the Watched Threads, the new posts used to appear alone on the old site design. Now they're ALL displayed (I have 32 pages worth) with the updated ones being bolded, but not by very much. They sort of blend in with the others with only a slight bolding. Can that be increased to make them more distinguished?

Another thing is that I get alerts saying I got a new response to a post I made, so I click the link and it takes me to the beginning of that thread rather than the post that was supposedly new. Then I scroll to the end of the thread only to find there was no new post after all. So it seems that false alerts are being generated somehow.
 
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For those who are saying that there was nothing wrong with the old system:

While I was comfortable with the old system, as an IT Professional, I can tell you with confidence that keeping the core engines of websites up to date is critical for security and integrity of the applications.

Upgrades aren’t always just for looks or features, though Dark Mode is an awesome feature that was added (Thank you!!!). The amount of customization CF has beyond the standard Xenforo templates is significant - and I appreciate the hard work!

I’m sure there were multiple reasons to update it - but the “Don’t fix what’s not broke” concept doesn’t take into consideration the security and framework upgrade requirements.
 
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For those who are saying that there was nothing wrong with the old system:

While I was comfortable with the old system, as an IT Professional, I can tell you with confidence that keeping the core engines of websites up to date is critical for security and integrity of the applications.

Upgrades aren’t always just for looks or features, though Dark Mode is an awesome feature that was added (Thank you!!!). The amount of customization CF has beyond the standard Xenforo templates is significant - and I appreciate the hard work!

I’m sure there were multiple reasons to update it - but the “Don’t fix what’s not broke” concept doesn’t take into consideration the security and framework upgrade requirements.
I'm not in IT but rather software engineering. I agree largely here. Often the risk-averse delay or won't upgrade to latest versions of software. This may work for a while, but your software gets further and further behind and eventually, when you can avoid it no longer, you have to re-write everything because nothing works with the new versions.

Here also, as big a box as CF is, it's likely a daunting task to note all the things you want to maintain (maybe start now!) when you being an upgrade. One strategy is to unleash it and see what your users say. Meh.

Could the team have done better? Maybe. Could it have been worse? Definitely.
 
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The print on the white background is hard to read. It seems very light, almost gray. When I toggle to the dark background -- a lot of each post disappears, some posts are completely blank, all that shows up is the NEW in the upper right corner of a lot of new posts. It's also very hard on the eyes. I use a tablet, don't know if that makes a difference. As a relatively new member, I found the old system comforting.
 
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Is Trending Topics gone? Do I have to search around looking for new discussions now? If so, I won’t stick around. I don’t have time snd now there are more ads snd pop ups also, I feel like the owner is just getting rich off of me.
 
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We have a great deal of conservative friends here on the forums and the hallmark of a “moderate-conservative” is delicately balancing “the way things used to be” on one side, and “the different, the new [way, word, forum-update] is ‘worse’ because I don’t know how to work [with] it yet.”

Give it two weeks, and we’ll hardly notice, like after one gets glasses for the first time, or changing one’s brand of cigarettes
 
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Good to see that they are trying to work on this new version, it would be nice if it can be more Phone friendly by making it less chunky and easier to find our way around. Good job so far but still not easy for us Phone users :)
 
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Good to see that they are trying to work on this new version, it would be nice if it can be more Phone friendly by making it less chunky and easier to find our way around. Good job so far but still not easy for us Phone users :)

Totally agree...
 
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One suggestion I'd make is to space the posts apart a little more. They seem to be so close together than they look cluttered. Makes it hard to tell where one post ends and the next one begins. It seems different on each thread.
 
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