Please explain to me why homosexuality is anathema to God.

[EnemyPartyII]

Hahahaha!!

Why would that give you confidence? God says it's wrong. Why would people in a mental facility give you more truth than God?

Hilarious!

God never says its wrong.

 

[walloffire]

You know God is love, but God must also be judge. There is no other judge. If we are commanded not to judge one another, it is only because God is judge. He sees all, he has all the evidence, and he will repay. He is judge, jury, and executioner, and mercy-giver, on HIS terms.

(Isa 6:3) And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

(Rev 4:8) And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

He is holy. Just because he judges, doesn't make him "mean" or evil or anything of the sort. When a judge in your country sentences a mass murderer to death, do you judge the judge for judging the murderer? Why then do you judge God, whose job it is to judge the wicked of the world? like hitler and so forth? So that they don't just "get away with it"? The victims of many crimes have cried out to God, the Judge, for millenia for God to repay their oppressors. God will do it, he will bring the proud low and raise up the humble. He will judge those wicked deeds, for he is the only one wise enough, holy enough, and fit enough to judge properly, and to execute punishment appropriately. So stop judging God, the Judge, for judging the wicked, which is his responsibility and duty.

 

[Floatingaxe]

God never says its wrong.

He sure does. You need to dust off your Bible and crack it open and actually read it once in a while.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Of course it is. Its as normal as being left handed or red haired... we're a minority, sure, but perfectly "normal"

Normal in many ways except sexual desire and behaviour.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Some people just don't like the fact that there are some people different to them.

That is, of course, the real problem here... some people are absolutely desperate to come up with a legitimate reason for their irrational fears and hatreds.

In psychology, the practice of trying to come up with a rational explanation for an irational belief is called "confabulation"... and there are "Some Posters" here who confabulate their absolute heads off.

The tragedy of confabulation is that you aren't aware you are doing it, and, when it is pointed out to you that you are, guess what? You confabulate yet more to explainwhy, in fact, you aren't.

 

[Catholicon]

Right. Well if the homophobes stop judging gay people, then we'll stop judging the homophobes.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Normal in many ways except sexual desire and behaviour.

Homosexual desire is just as normal as being left handed.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Right. Well if the homophobes stop judging gay people, then we'll stop judging the homophobes.

Hey, don't you know that people who have an irrational hatred of all homosexuals because their sexual orientation is evil and wrong, that all gays deserve to be burnt at the stake as sinners, don't like to be called "homophobes"? They feel its stereotypical and unfair

 

[Catholicon]

He sure does. You need to dust off your Bible and crack it open and actually read it once in a while.

Please provide the chapter and verse where GOD says homosexuality is wrong.

 

[AetheriusLamia]

By the way, guys ... this thread isn't about debating whether or not you feel homosexuality is wrong. Reread the first post: It's about explaining your view about why God doesn't like homosexuality, and what it is that makes homosexuality wrong.

Example:

Murder is anathema to God because it deprives a fellow human being of the blessing of life that God gave him or her, and it fosters further feelings of hatred.

Now you do the same for homosexuality. Note that saying "because the Bible says so" is not sufficient nor appropriate for this thread. The question is not, "is it wrong." The question for conversation here is, "Why would God feel that it's wrong?"

 

[EnemyPartyII]

By the way, guys ... this thread isn't about debating whether or not you feel homosexuality is wrong. Reread the first post: It's about explaining your view about why God doesn't like homosexuality, and what it is that makes homosexuality wrong.

Example:

Murder is anathema to God because it deprives a fellow human being of the blessing of life that God gave him or her, and it fosters further feelings of hatred.

Now you do the same for homosexuality. Note that saying "because the Bible says so" is not sufficient nor appropriate for this thread. The question is not, "is it wrong." The question for conversation here is, "Why would God feel that it's wrong?"

it all comes back to "The Bible SEZ!" and "you mustn't question what the Bible SEZ" arguments...

They really hate it that you can provide a non Biblical rational for murder, rape, theft, adultery etc being unethical, while no such secular ethical condemnation for homosexuality has yet been identified. HATE it.

 

[AetheriusLamia]

Be that as it may, the topic isn't about secular society and all that ... those are for other homosexuality threads. The point of this thread is to discuss why God hates homosexuality, as illustrated in my example regarding murder.

 

[Floatingaxe]

By the way, guys ... this thread isn't about debating whether or not you feel homosexuality is wrong. Reread the first post: It's about explaining your view about why God doesn't like homosexuality, and what it is that makes homosexuality wrong.

Example:

Murder is anathema to God because it deprives a fellow human being of the blessing of life that God gave him or her, and it fosters further feelings of hatred.

Now you do the same for homosexuality. Note that saying "because the Bible says so" is not sufficient nor appropriate for this thread. The question is not, "is it wrong." The question for conversation here is, "Why would God feel that it's wrong?"

It's just like a child to ask his daddy, "Why?" And it's just like a dad to say, "Because I told you so!"

God created male and female to get together to create children for His kingdom, and the creation of this ideal family unit under His protection and in His honour is how it's done.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Please provide the chapter and verse where GOD says homosexuality is wrong.

What? Don't non-denominationals have concordances? I know I do.

If you don't know the Word of God, why do you think you know about this subject matter enough to post in answer to the OP question?

 

[Catholicon]

There is no reason whatsoever to assume God does.

All we have are words by people. Whoever wrote Leviticus was... well, a bit confused, judging by the unusual things that he considered sins, and Paul was probably homophobic anyway, like several of the posters in this thread. Not really the best to rely on for an objective, independent opinion.

There's still nothing that says God has any feelings for homosexuality, and if it was an issue for him, a reference to consensual sex between adults would have been made in the 10 Commandments, or Jesus Himself would have mentioned it on God's behalf. He didn't.

Neither God, nor Jesus speaking for God, ever made any mention of consensual same-sex relationships being a sin.

 

[Catholicon]

What? Don't non-denominationals have concordances? I know I do.

If you don't know the Word of God, why do you think you know about this subject matter enough to post in answer to the OP question?

I'm still waiting for the chapter and verse in which you think GOD Himself condemns homosexuality.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

What? Don't non-denominationals have concordances? I know I do.

If you don't know the Word of God, why do you think you know about this subject matter enough to post in answer to the OP question?

translation: I can't find any such verse, but refuse to admit it

 

[AetheriusLamia]

Floatingaxe, I have had you on ignore for some time, as I consider reading the majority of your posts a complete waste of time. (I do not mean to be offensive with this statement; I merely want you to understand exactly how I feel. It is by no means an attack on your character; it is merely an expression of my thoughts regarding your posts.)

This being said, it seems you actually are now contributing to my thread. Let us hope it continues. My rebuttal:

In the Bible it is never stated that the "nuclear family" model of a mother and wife should be the only family; it is merely the only one mentioned. To suggest that it is the only valid model is to appeal to tradition, which is a logical fallacy.

That being said, let us assume, for the sake of argument, that the male/female union form of the family is the best one, or even, let us assume, the only one acceptable to God.

What does God have against two of the same sex joining together to adopt children that need good homes? Our planet is already having problems with overpopulation; an additional question is then, is it God's plan for humans to kill the planet through overpopulation?

 

[Floatingaxe]

Floatingaxe, I have had you on ignore for some time, as I consider reading the majority of your posts a complete waste of time. (I do not mean to be offensive with this statement; I merely want you to understand exactly how I feel. It is by no means an attack on your character; it is merely an expression of my thoughts regarding your posts.)

Yes it is offensive. I actually bother to read your posts. I suppose you are averse to the truth you perceive in mine.

This being said, it seems you actually are now contributing to my thread. Let us hope it continues. My rebuttal:

In the Bible it is never stated that the "nuclear family" model of a mother and wife should be the only family; it is merely the only one mentioned. To suggest that it is the only valid model is to appeal to tradition, which is a logical fallacy.

It is the only valid arrangement.

That being said, let us assume, for the sake of argument, that the male/female union form of the family is the best one, or even, let us assume, the only one acceptable to God.

What does God have against two of the same sex joining together to adopt children that need good homes? Our planet is already having problems with overpopulation; an additional question is then, is it God's plan for humans to kill the planet through overpopulation?

Couples of the same gender cannot marry--therefore what they think about and what they do are adulterous and fornication--sin. Of course God isn't going to sanction fornication!

We are nowhere near overpopulating the planet! That is a fallacy you are believing.

Jesus will return long before we annihilate ourselves, so don't worry. He will be doing the annihilating.

 

[BigBadWlf]

Bigotry, however, is NOT normal. It's a sign of mental disturbance.