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Physics and our place in the Universe

lesliedellow

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Who made that rule? Angels must obey our rules? Heaven must obey present state earth laws? Absurd and false. That is a lame excuse to try to impose the rules of earth in this state on the universe and eternity.

Are you so thick that you can't recognise a post which is arguing against an atheist?

If you can't even manage those couple of sentences, it says much about what happens when you try to read the Bible.
 
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Are you so thick that you can't recognise a post which is arguing against an atheist?

If you can't even manage those couple of sentences, it says much about what happens when you try to read the Bible.
I recognized a post for what it was actually. If you want to claim it was something else, work on articulation.
 
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God did it, that is not an issue. Why science was wrong in their grandiose claims, and petulant production of flatulent fables is the issue.

I need an avalanche of Advil whilst reading your posts, because you write like an 11 year old who has just discovered what a thesaurus is.
 
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You're very welcome.
Now that we learned about your allusions to an arduous and agonizing advil adventure, it would be appropriate if you allocate some of your academic acumen as well as atheistic apologetics to the amazing and alluring topic. Attaboy.
 
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Now that we learned about your advil adventures

Three letter alliteration! You're improving.

it would be appropriate to learn about any educated and reasoned opinions you may have regarding the topic.

On which particular aspect, exactly?
 
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Now that we learned about your advil adventures, it would be appropriate to learn about any educated and reasoned opinions you may have regarding the topic.

Ooh, I shouldn't think he would have any trouble with educated.
 
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"Time dilation shows us that time is different in the solar system."

The very first sentence will be an occasion for great mirth.
Actually here is the first sentence in the OP..


"Science apparently says that our solar system is like a bubble moving in space."


Following the sentence you cite, we read this..

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From the experiments that show a time difference in as little as a foot, and continuing with height on building tops, mountains, airplanes and spacecraft. Indeed time is a part of the fabric of this world and solar system and all that is in them such as atoms, and light. Even down at the quantum level, time is woven in."


Unless you want to claim NO time difference as the experiments claim, obviously time is different at various points. Not a great start leslie.
 
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"Time dilation shows us that time is different in the solar system."

The very first sentence will be an occasion for great mirth.

It's different at the poles than at the equator, because the energy content is different in both locations. It's different everywhere one goes, because no two spots has the same relative voltage compared to any other spot.

It is not a magical property of spacetime. More or less energy simply causes the atom to oscillate at a different rate. It IS the clock and not a property of space. Which is why clocks under acceleration change rates, because acceleration adds energy and energy changes the oscilation rate of the atom as electrons move to higher or lower states.

Just as length contraction can easily be turned into length expansion. If one places the engines at the front of a craft, then the craft will not get shorter under acceleration, but longer as the beginning moves and the rest is pulled along. Only when one imagines the object being pushed, does length contraction work.

Also according to quantum physics as an electron gains energy, it moves to a higher orbital radius, the exact opposite of what would be required in contraction.
 
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It's different at the poles than at the equator, ....
..Because of many things such as gravity bending spacetime, science says. So it is known that time is not the same, because it can be and is affected by gravity and etc.
 
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It's different at the poles than at the equator, because the energy content is different in both locations. It's different everywhere one goes, because no two spots has the same relative voltage compared to any other spot.

I could walk into an electrical store and buy a 1,000μF capacitor, and that would easily hold more charge that the Earth, with its 710μF capacitance. What is more, the Earth is a good enough conductor to ensure that any electrical charge it did have would be evenly distributed across its surface.


It is not a magical property of spacetime. More or less energy simply causes the atom to oscillate at a different rate.

That is called heat, not time dilation.


Just as length contraction can easily be turned into length expansion. If one places the engines at the front of a craft, then the craft will not get shorter under acceleration, but longer as the beginning moves and the rest is pulled along. Only when one imagines the object being pushed, does length contraction work.

The Fitzgerald Contraction has nothing whatsoever to do with acceleration.

Apparently even Dad knows more physics than you do. I never thought I would live to see the day when somebody would outshine him in ignorance of science.
 
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Prove science is wrong dad. Prove it. So far, judging by the response you are getting on this forum (and probably will from almost anywhere else) you are not doing a good job.

If people lie about something, is what they say "wrong"?

Sham science: fake research paper accepted by over 100 journals

“I created data. I made it up. I also made up patients that were fictitious,” he testified.

A pooled weighted average of 1.97% (N = 7, 95%CI: 0.86–4.45) of scientists admitted to have fabricated, falsified or modified data or results at least once –a serious form of misconduct by any standard– and up to 33.7% admitted other questionable research practices
 
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I haven't actually bothered to read any of this thread. Sorry. :sorry:

dad pretty much pointed that out in his response to mine and good for him that he did. 1-0, his way.

I still haven't read any of it except this page and I don't plan to. So, sorry but your post does not make any sense to me SkyWriting.
 
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I haven't actually bothered to read any of this thread. Sorry. :sorry:dad pretty much pointed that out in his response to mine and good for him that he did. 1-0, his way.I still haven't read any of it except this page and I don't plan to. So, sorry but your post does not make any sense to me SkyWriting.

I don't expect some people to read it.:thumbsup:


http://www.christianforums.com/t7813038/#post65379255
 
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