Paul Washer

[VCViking]

and 'certain others' will continue hating my guts

Obviously you are referring to me. I do not hate your guts. I wish you would please stop playing the victim all the time and stop making assumptions and accusations about people.

 

[VCViking]

Oh, and he likes to criticize other pastors.

Only false ones...and so does MacArthur, J.Vernon McGree, Sproul. Oh...and Sproul is a 5-pointer also but I guess that doesn't matter.

 

[ThyLovingkindness]

After having read this thread, I watched for most of the morning, Paul Washer's sermons. Here's one I enjoyed,

Regeneration v. The Idolatry of Decisional "Evangelism" (Paul Washer @ the Deeper Conference 2008) - YouTube

 

[VCViking]

At any rate, I'm just sharing my two cents just as you do, and last time I checked that's ok and I should be allowed to do so without being attacked. But my two cents is I wouldn't waste my time with him when there are much more well-known and powerful and mightily used men of God like the ones I mentioned, and more: J. Vernon McGee, Chuck Swindoll, Michael Youssef, RC Sproul,

The problem is your two cents start out as an attack on someone you've never heard preach or teach. And when confronted, not attacked, you play the victim. Besides, you should invest your time in listening to him, you will be pleasantly surprised on his views theologically.

 

[Hammster]

The problem is your two cents start out as an attack. And when confronted, not attacked, you play the victim. Besides, you should invest your time in listening to him, you will be pleasantly surprised on his views theologically.

He's said that although he is a Calvinist, he's not a theologian. He just preaches God's word, and hard.

 

[VCViking]

He's said that although he is a Calvinist, he's not a theologian. He just preaches God's word, and hard.

Actually, he's a 5-point Spurgeonist. I agree though. He also has very good sermons on marriage, dating, courting and family.



"Calvinism Is Not The Issue!" - Paul Washer - YouTube

 

[Hammster]

Actually, he's a 5-point Spurgeonist. I agree though. He also has very good sermons on marriage, dating, courting and family.

"Calvinism Is Not The Issue!" - Paul Washer - YouTube

His message on marriage was hard to listen to.

 

[rockytopva]

Paul Washer's ministry is about twenty miles from the house. No one in our area has ever heard of the guy. Does no good here! I would have never heard of the guy if I did not belong to CF.

The Baptist church in our area doing the best is the Auburn Baptist church. As the pastor is a county pastor everyone loves the guy and the church is booming. Pastor Shake will never be known to the outside world but is doing great job in our area...

http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/284290

 

[Hammster]

Paul Washer's ministry is about twenty miles from the house. No one in our area has ever heard of the guy. Does no good here! I would have never heard of the guy if I did not belong to CF.

The Baptist church in our area doing the best is the Auburn Baptist church. As the pastor is a county pastor everyone loves the guy and the church is booming. Pastor Shake will never be known to the outside world but is doing great job in our area...

http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/284290

That's great to hear. I guess there's no reason for you to have heard about Paul Washer, then.

 

[Hupomone10]

After having read this thread, I watched for most of the morning, Paul Washer's sermons. Here's one I enjoyed,

From the title of the sermon, this may be what I was referring to. I will listen to it later today to confirm. Unlike the charge by VCViking, I have heard him teach and preach. I've either heard this one or one with a similar title where he is poo poo'ing a decision of faith in the Lord Jesus in favor of some sort of passive regeneration that God does to you and you later passively believe. New Testament Scripture constantly gives a call to believe, not a series of statements to the effect that you don't have to worry about it because you will believe if it was 'meant to be.'

What good is it to try to talk people out of making a decision to believe in Christ and telling Him so in prayer? I really don't get it. I understand easy decisionism and easy believism, but I don't get orchestrated effort at leading people into passivity.

 

[Hupomone10]

Paul Washer's ministry is about twenty miles from the house. No one in our area has ever heard of the guy. Does no good here! I would have never heard of the guy if I did not belong to CF.

The Baptist church in our area doing the best is the Auburn Baptist church. As the pastor is a county pastor everyone loves the guy and the church is booming. Pastor Shake will never be known to the outside world but is doing great job in our area...

http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/284290

That's part of my point. He's only popular apparently among 5-point calvinists who constantly tout him making it sound like he's the latest thing since sliced bread. But he's neither dynamic nor a powerful teacher from what little I've heard of him, and he can't compare to those I mentioned in prior posts.

 

[rockytopva]

That's great to hear. I guess there's no reason for you to have heard about Paul Washer, then.

And some quotes from the newsource...

Personality of the congregation: "This church is filled with people that love the Lord," Smith said. "We laugh, we cry. We're just a big family."
The congregation's attendance is about 350 for services and the age of congregants ranges from toddlers to seniors. Worship services are traditional in nature.


"We preach the Word here," Smith said.


Pastor's favorite scripture from the King James Bible: Philippians 4:13: "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."

 

[bottomofsandal]

Actually, he's a 5-point Spurgeonist. I agree though. He also has very good sermons on marriage, dating, courting and family.

Good morning brother !


What is a Spurgeonist ? Is this playful term or a real soteriology ? There is a dear brother here who calls himself a Calminian, that is his username. IMHO, the branding of people, and the assigning them with a theological position is simply to attack. Neutrality or an unexpressed pov should stimulate inquiry because there is no little icon that designates theological affiliation. Some are just too lazy to really find out other's pov if the pov is not worn on the shirtsleeve, they seem to prefer the convenience of association because it provides them with a target. Unfortunately, people cease to listen when they have preconceived notions about a pov that they do not fully know or comprehend.

 

[Hammster]

After having read this thread, I watched for most of the morning, Paul Washer's sermons. Here's one I enjoyed,

Regeneration v. The Idolatry of Decisional "Evangelism" (Paul Washer @ the Deeper Conference 2008) - YouTube

Great message. He clearly shows the failure of modern day evangelism.

 

[Hammster]

From the title of the sermon, this may be what I was referring to. I will listen to it later today to confirm. Unlike the charge by VCViking, I have heard him teach and preach. I've either heard this one or one with a similar title where he is poo poo'ing a decision of faith in the Lord Jesus in favor of some sort of passive regeneration that God does to you and you later passively believe. New Testament Scripture constantly gives a call to believe, not a series of statements to the effect that you don't have to worry about it because you will believe if it was 'meant to be.'

What good is it to try to talk people out of making a decision to believe in Christ and telling Him so in prayer? I really don't get it. I understand easy decisionism and easy believism, but I don't get orchestrated effort at leading people into passivity.

You should listen before you criticize.

 

[VCViking]

Good morning brother !


What is a Spurgeonist ? Is this playful term or a real soteriology?

I believe when he says this he is referring that he lines up with Spurgeon in reference to the 5 points of Calvinism. His understanding and view of the 5 points of calvinsim is the way Spurgeon views them.

But who knows, maybe down the road it turns into a real movement.

 

[VCViking]

Good morning brother !


IMHO, the branding of people, and the assigning them with a theological position is simply to attack...Some are just too lazy to really find out other's pov if the pov is not worn on the shirtsleeve, they seem to prefer the convenience of association because it provides them with a target. Unfortunately, people cease to listen when they have preconceived notions about a pov that they do not fully know or comprehend.

Very true brother as we have already seen here.

 

[VCViking]

Unlike the charge by VCViking, I have heard him teach and preach.

I stand corrected. I missed that in your previous post that you stated you have watched him. My apologies.

 

[VCViking]

What Would the Modern Preacher Have Done? (Paul Washer) - YouTube

 

[Hammster]

That's part of my point. He's only popular apparently among 5-point calvinists who constantly tout him making it sound like he's the latest thing since sliced bread. But he's neither dynamic nor a powerful teacher from what little I've heard of him, and he can't compare to those I mentioned in prior posts.

Odd that he's popular with biblical Calvinists when he doesn't even preach on Calvinism.