Paul Washer

[Lik3]

What are your thoughts on Paul Washer and his preaching? Do you believe that he has any erroneous teaching or is he the real deal?

 

[strelok0017]

I've listened to some clips and two or three sermons. He is a godly man as far as I can tell. Most of the time I listen to Dr. John Piper, he is my favorite teacher. Paul Washer is in the same crowd I think, as John Piper (both are Calvinists, that is). That doesn't matter much, truth matters. Paul Washer is, in my opinion, a true disciple of Jesus. Not a great expositor, according to him, but someone who knows how to Biblically hit the heart of the issue. I don't know enough to say more since I haven't heard much of him. I'm sure he has lead many to Christ.

 

[a pilgrim]

He seems to be more interested in making genuine disciples than Calvinists, (though he is one.) He sees the bigger picture and the need for a revival of authentic, biblical, Christianity.

 

[98cwitr]

Do like...I find few things he preaches that I fundamentally cannot match up to scripture.

 

[strelok0017]

Do like...I find few things he preaches that I fundamentally cannot match up to scripture.

Can you please say what they are?

I don't listen to him, except two or three sermons that I watched, but at one point I was sure that he said that repentance comes before salvation. I'm not sure if this is true (maybe he meant to say something else).

According to all that I know from the Bible it's not but he confused me a bit. Apart from that I didn't pick up anything else that seemed wrong.

 

[ChristianT]

Can you please say what they are?

I don't listen to him, except two or three sermons that I watched, but at one point I was sure that he said that repentance comes before salvation. I'm not sure if this is true (maybe he meant to say something else).

According to all that I know from the Bible it's not but he confused me a bit. Apart from that I didn't pick up anything else that seemed wrong.

Technically, repentance comes after salvation, but a repentant heart/will (meaning you are going to commit to it for the sake of holiness, a command of God, attained by His power) comes before. Biblically, repentance comes along with salvation, so before, during, and after. Salvation, really, is a process that lasts a lifetime, so it would be mostly before and during. (As far as I understand it)

--EDIT--
Sorry, I merely addressed salvation as far as sanctification.

As for my beliefs about the noble pastor Washer, I think his theology is quite biblical, accurate to what many [legitimate] "spiritual leaders" of God teach, and the 'real deal.' Especially as testament to this, some of his teachings sound harsh and hard to accept, however the truth isn't always fluffy bunnies and bambi.

 

[strelok0017]

Technically, repentance comes after salvation, but a repentant heart/will (meaning you are going to commit to it for the sake of holiness, a command of God, attained by His power) comes before. Biblically, repentance comes along with salvation, so before, during, and after. Salvation, really, is a process that lasts a lifetime, so it would be mostly before and during. (As far as I understand it)

Nah, he said in another video that he was wrong. Besides, I don't think we can repent if we aren't born again. Heart that repents is born again because dead heart can't recognize it's need for Jesus. I also disagree that salvation is a lifelong process. Maybe I'm wrong, but I strongly hold this position because once we are justified we are saved. Those who are saved have eternal life and if this wasn't so once we are justified then the Bible would not say work out your salvation with fear and trembling; salvation that is already ours. Anyway, this isn't the topic.

God bless you!

 

[98cwitr]

Can you please say what they are?

I don't listen to him, except two or three sermons that I watched, but at one point I was sure that he said that repentance comes before salvation. I'm not sure if this is true (maybe he meant to say something else).

According to all that I know from the Bible it's not but he confused me a bit. Apart from that I didn't pick up anything else that seemed wrong.

I'll have to go back and watch...nothing comes to mind but I remember thinking that after watching one of his sermons. I'll post back

 

[desmalia]

I also disagree that salvation is a lifelong process. Maybe I'm wrong, but I strongly hold this position because once we are justified we are saved. Those who are saved have eternal life and if this wasn't so once we are justified then the Bible would not say work out your salvation with fear and trembling; salvation that is already ours.

Salvation involves justification, sanctification and then finally glorification. I think what you might be doing is confusing sanctification (the life-long part) and justification. We are secure in justification, but you can't divorce it from sanctification any more than you can from glorification. (sorry, maybe that's a bit off topic, I just couldn't let it go by without saying anything).

To answer he OP, Paul Washer is definitely the real deal and I highly recommend his teaching.

 

[Hupomone10]

What are your thoughts on Paul Washer and his preaching? Do you believe that he has any erroneous teaching or is he the real deal?

I had never heard of him until people on this Baptist forum posted his sermons. He seems to be well liked by 5-point calvinists. The sermons I've listened to that people have posted on here seem to be highly critical of other pastors and churches. But I'm sure that's only a small sampling.

If you're 5-point Calvinist you'll probably like him.

Are you familiar with James McDonald, John MacArthur, David Jeremiah, Charles Stanley? Those are four mainstream and very well-known and also powerful preachers/teachers that you can't go wrong with.

Blessings,
H.

 

[Hammster]

I had never heard of him until people on this Baptist forum posted his sermons. He seems to be well liked by 5-point calvinists. The sermons I've listened to that people have posted on here seem to be highly critical of other pastors and churches. But I'm sure that's only a small sampling.

If you're 5-point Calvinist you'll probably like him.

Are you familiar with James McDonald, John MacArthur, David Jeremiah, Charles Stanley? Those are four mainstream and very well-known and also powerful preachers/teachers that you can't go wrong with.

Blessings,
H.

I'd be careful, though. Two of them are well-known 5 pointers.

 

[VCViking]

Why some people feel the need to keep bringing up and labeling people without actually knowing anything about the person or have never even heard the person preach/teach is beyond me. People should try to actually listen to someone before making the usual assumptions.

In reference to the OP, I have listened to many of his sermons and he is the real deal. You can listen to them on sermonindex.com, sermonaudio.com, youtube, or here HeartCry Missionary Society.

 

[VCViking]

Do like...I find few things he preaches that I fundamentally cannot match up to scripture.

Here's a video of him expalining some concerns people have and I do not agree with everything he says either but most.

The Background of the Shocking Youth Message - Paul Washer - YouTube

 

[ThyLovingkindness]

Here's a video of him expalining some concerns people have and I do not agree with everything he says either but most.

The Background of the Shocking Youth Message - Paul Washer - YouTube

Wow. What an amazing video. I'm very interested in knowing more about Paul Washer's preaching. Thanks!

 

[Bear.Fr00t]

Paul is the real deal, just listen to his preaching.

 

[Hupomone10]

I'd be careful, though. Two of them are well-known 5 pointers.

Who else? I'm aware of MacArthur, but his dispensationalism more than makes up for whatever delusions he may have regarding limited atonement and irresistible grace. But which other one is 5-point?

 

[Hammster]

Who else? I'm aware of MacArthur, but his dispensationalism more than makes up for whatever delusions he may have regarding limited atonement and irresistible grace. But which other one is 5-point?

James McDonald.

 

[Hupomone10]

Why some people feel the need to keep bringing up and labeling people without actually knowing anything about the person or have never even heard the person preach/teach is beyond me. People should try to actually listen to someone before making the usual assumptions.

"People" have heard him preach, at least the sermons that have been posted on here, and "people" have listened to him, and the only assumption "people" made was that he is 5-point, is that not true? Oh, and he likes to criticize other pastors. That's just an inescapable observation from listening to the messages posted on here. But again, and i think I said this in my thread, but I'm not surprised you missed that part , I'm sure he has messages where he doesn't do that.

Maybe this one posted on here is one!

At any rate, I'm just sharing my two cents just as you do, and last time I checked that's ok and I should be allowed to do so without being attacked. But my two cents is I wouldn't waste my time with him when there are much more well-known and powerful and mightily used men of God like the ones I mentioned, and more: J. Vernon McGee, Chuck Swindoll, Michael Youssef, RC Sproul,

 

[Hammster]

"People" have heard him preach, at least the sermons that have been posted on here, and "people" have listened to him, and the only assumption "people" made was that he is 5-point, is that not true? Oh, and he likes to criticize other pastors. That's just an inescapable observation from listening to the messages posted on here. But again, and i think I said this in my thread, but I'm not surprised you missed that part , I'm sure he has messages where he doesn't do that.

Maybe this one posted on here is one!

At any rate, I'm just sharing my two cents just as you do, and last time I checked that's ok and I should be allowed to do so without being attacked. But my two cents is I wouldn't waste my time with him when there are much more well-known and powerful and mightily used men of God like the ones I mentioned, and more: J. Vernon McGee, Chuck Swindoll, Michael Youssef, RC Sproul,

Two of those are well-known 5 pointers as well.

 

[Hupomone10]

James McDonald.

Interesting! Maybe I'll rethink my position...

At any rate, he's powerful and good, and I don't know off hand of any problem with his teaching, which I usually hear at least once a week; and I've learned much from it. Likewise the rest on that list.


One thing for sure, one day we'll know. Until then we will exercise in-spite-of love for each other and exchange snippits with each other and 'certain others' will continue hating my guts