Patriarch of Alexandria commemorates Epiphany

[buzuxi02]

I guess you forgot the United States. They would certainly top the list. No one compares in bringing Freedom and Democracy by "bombing you into the stone age diplomacy" like my parents adopted country.

 

[James4Christ 777]

Gentlemen - this is getting political - TAW is not a board for political posts

Move my post if you need to, but I felt the gentlemen I was replying to post was a bit hyperbolic.

 

[Not David]

We were all getting along until some posts were published.

 

[Platina]

As long as the Phanariot/Ukie schismatic side tries to blame everything on the Kremlin, no one will ever take them seriously.

Try talking about Jesus Christ and you might get somewhere.

 

[StanU]

Biggest sponsor of terrorism? Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey says hello! Russia backs ethnic Russians in the Donbass region for their survival, against ethno nationalistic Fascists. Also last I looked Russia not on the State sponsorship of terrorism list or a place blacklisted by terrorism funding.

I know there is passions ranging on both sides in this break in communion, yet let's not throw accusations out there like "biggest sponsors of terrorism"

You are completely wrong about Donbass region, and forgetting that Russia is on Iran's side in Syria. Also, Georgia, Armenia, Moldova, ...

 

[StanU]

As long as the Phanariot/Ukie schismatic side tries to blame everything on the Kremlin, no one will ever take them seriously.

Try talking about Jesus Christ and you might get somewhere.

You guys are in your bubble. People mostly see Kremlin crime family for what they are.

 

[Platina]

You guys are in your bubble. People mostly see Kremlin crime family for what they are.

A section of bitter ethnophyletist Ukrainians and paranoid ethnophyletist Greeks doesn't represent everyone. Most Orthodox just roll their eyes when they hear Kremlin-KGB conspiracy theories.

 

[StanU]

A section of bitter ethnophyletist Ukrainians and paranoid ethnophyletist Greeks doesn't represent everyone. Most Orthodox just roll their eyes when they hear Kremlin-KGB conspiracy theories.

Dude, ROC-Kremlin ties are common knowledge in Russia. Would be hard to ignore seeing how Patr. Kirill (codename "Mikhailov") openly sits on Ministry of Defence "collegiums" and is entitled to (and use) the use of Federal Protection Service and government protected communications. Most Imperialistic Russians just don't see it as a problem.

 

[Not David]

Ok, I might not like most of what StanU says but we should not say he is not Orthodox

 

[ArmyMatt]

First off you are not Orthodox. You are in your own bubble. Why would you say Russia is on Iran's side in Syria? Is it because you think your U.S. government has convinced everyone that Iran is the world's boogeyman??? Your assumption can only be derived from one who lives in a U.S. state department bubble.
By the way whose side is America on in Syria???? Is it Turkey (as they once were)? Is it the terrorist rebels (as they once were)? Is it the Kurds (as they once were but who now side with "Iran")? Or is it just whatever side Israhell tells them to he on.

pretty sure he is in the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada, which does make him canonically Orthodox.

 

[StanU]

I hope this does illustrate how rational people in Russia bubble get. I guess it is understandable if you realize just how much propaganda they got from their ББЗ ("ballistic defense towers" - mind control tech in a cult Russian scifi novel. Also, Russian TV).

 

[Euodius]

I heard someone compare Ukraine to Estonia (I think it was Estonia)... did something similar happen in Estonia with the EP and Moscow?

Estonia and Ukraine are looking to unite in a technocratic experiment for 'e-governance.'
Estonia and Ukraine to jointly develop e-governance

(^ This work is of the type of the Antichrist.)

Estonia has been at the forefront for bring Ukraine into the EU and westernizing the country.

 

[AMM]

Estonia and Ukraine are looking to unite in a technocratic experiment for 'e-governance.'
Estonia and Ukraine to jointly develop e-governance

(^ This work is of the type of the Antichrist.)

Estonia has been at the forefront for bring Ukraine into the EU and westernizing the country.

what is e-governance and why do you think it's satanic?

 

[Euodius]

what is e-governance and why do you think it's satanic?

E-governance is a systematization of the entire civic life of people. In Estonia, this is to be managed by what they call Krats, which are AI programs named after a demonic entity (similar to a golem) from Estonian folklore. There is discussion of the rights of Krats, being given a kind of legal personhood, while being over the management of the people.

What is the meaning of the number of a man - 666?

The taking of all things into account. It is an encylopedic system. It is the radius of a circle, leaving out the irrational remainder. The inherent reality that this taking of all into account is absent of the totality of reality - specifically of invisible reality and ultimately God. That is the meaning of 6. It is the 6 days of creation, absent of the 7th. It is the Law without the Jubiliee.

666 is the ultimate 6. The subjugation of all into a system. A system that is economic, social, cybernetic (def: the science of governance), and religious. All that does not fit into the system is violently excluded - "being able to neither buy nor sell" but also tracking those who flee deep into the caves to subjugate or kill them (St. Ephraim.)

See here:

 

[StanU]

E-governance is a systematization of the entire civic life of people. In Estonia, this is to be managed by what they call Krats, which are AI programs named after a demonic entity (similar to a golem) from Estonian folklore. There is discussion of the rights of Krats, being given a kind of legal personhood, while being over the management of the people.

In practice, it is simply infrastructure for providing government services over Internet. Estonia is famous for this; in Ukraine, the newest government had "digitalization" as a prominent part of what these clowns passed off as their "platform" (not sure if even they know what they mean by that).

 

[StanU]

Estonia and Ukraine are looking to unite in a technocratic experiment for 'e-governance.'
Estonia and Ukraine to jointly develop e-governance

(^ This work is of the type of the Antichrist.)

Estonia has been at the forefront for bring Ukraine into the EU and westernizing the country.

\No. What this refers to is how EP re-established it's autonomous jurisdiction over objections of the MP, leading to a brief 1996 schism between EP and MP. Currently, EP and MP jurisdictions co-exist in Estonia (not sure how peacefully, but at least there's no schism). MP version attracts Russian ethnic minority and is the larger one by number of adherents.

Parallels to the OCU situation are obvious.

 

[AMM]

In practice, it is simply infrastructure for providing government services over Internet. Estonia is famous for this; in Ukraine, the newest government had "digitalization" as a prominent part of what these clowns passed off as their "platform" (not sure if even they know what they mean by that).

that doesn't sound satanic... am I missing something?

 

[AMM]

\No. What this refers to is how EP re-established it's autonomous jurisdiction over objections of the MP, leading to a brief 1996 schism between EP and MP. Currently, EP and MP jurisdictions co-exist in Estonia (not sure how peacefully, but at least there's no schism). MP version attracts Russian ethnic minority and is the larger one by number of adherents.

Parallels to the OCU situation are obvious.

out of curiosity (and not intending to start a debate), did the EP jurisdiction come from a schismatic group that was excommunicated by the MP previously? Or did the EP just send their bishops or grant autonomy to canonical MP bishops who then moved under the EP?

 

[StanU]

that doesn't sound satanic... am I missing something?

I really don't think it's satanic; no more nor less than various national ID number systems small groups of Christians (including Orthodox) tend to obsess about.

...well, if one MUST think about the details of Antichrist's One World Government or whatever, I guess computers will be part of it's infrastructure and one of the means of totalitarian control. Seriously doubt tiny Estonia is it, though.

 

[StanU]

out of curiosity (and not intending to start a debate), did the EP jurisdiction come from a schismatic group that was excommunicated by the MP previously? Or did the EP just send their bishops or grant autonomy to canonical MP bishops who then moved under the EP?

Well, clearly I'm not familiar with the details. Wikipedia is a bit vague, but apparently the bishops from Church of Finland (EP) stepped in and eventually ordained ones for Estonia. No clue whether or not EP excommunicated any of the participating priests.