Patriarch of Alexandria commemorates Epiphany

[Knee V]

The Patriarch of Alexandria seems to have changed his mind regarding Ukraine, and has commemorated Epiphany.
Pat. of Alexandria: I decided to commemorate Epiphany after private discussions with bishops and time of prayer

 

[ArmyMatt]

Lord have mercy!

 

[AMM]

I heard someone compare Ukraine to Estonia (I think it was Estonia)... did something similar happen in Estonia with the EP and Moscow?

 

[buzuxi02]

With friends like these greeks who needs enemies.

 

[Platina]

The UOC described the decision by Archbishop Ieronymos to commemorate Epiphany as a knife in the back. How much more so is this decision by Patriarch Theodoros, who was supposed to be such a friend of Metropolitan Onuphry?! He event went to Odessa just a year ago to encourage the people to stay with the canonical Church and their holy primate, Metropolitan Onuphry.

Patriarch Theodoros lived in Odessa for 10 years, during the time when the schisms all happened! He knows what these people are about, firsthand.

What a betrayal!

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

(Serious Question) What section / jurisdiction of Orthodoxy has the least amount of drama and division ? Antiochian ?

 

[Not David]

(Serious Question) What section / jurisdiction of Orthodoxy has the least amount of drama and division ? Antiochian ?

When a part of the body suffers, we all suffer.

 

[AMM]

(Serious Question) What section / jurisdiction of Orthodoxy has the least amount of drama and division ? Antiochian ?

I’m not sure. They all have their issues. But as David says - they’re also all connected.

Plus, Antioch and Jerusalem have some “drama” between them.

 

[archer75]

(Serious Question) What section / jurisdiction of Orthodoxy has the least amount of drama and division ? Antiochian ?

I don't know, but it seems there will be trouble until the end.

 

[buzuxi02]

(Serious Question) What section / jurisdiction of Orthodoxy has the least amount of drama and division ? Antiochian ?

The jurisdiction themselves dont have much drama. It's the intrajurisdictional squabbles that's problematic. I would say stay away from the jurisdictions under the Phanar (or department or Eparchy or whatever they call their subdivisions).

 

[Not David]

The jurisdiction themselves dont have much drama. It's the intrajurisdictional squabbles that's problematic. I would say stay away from the jurisdictions under the Phanar (or department or Eparchy or whatever they call their subdivisions).

Why do they call the Ecumenical Patriarch "Phanar"? Is that a Turkish term?

 

[buzuxi02]

Why do they call the Ecumenical Patriarch "Phanar"? Is that a Turkish term?

Phanariotes- residents of the Fener section of Istanbul. Fanari in Greek means lamp, that section had many lamp posts. It became the last remaining greek neighborhood (its sort of became a ghetto or a remnant of the last Greek-Rum quarters) in the city and is where the EP is headquartered.

 

[prodromos]

Why do they call the Ecumenical Patriarch "Phanar"? Is that a Turkish term?

Phanar - OrthodoxWiki

 

[Not David]

I read that the Russian Church is trying to set up their own Churches in Africa (Alexandria's territory)

 

[AMM]

I read that the Russian Church is trying to set up their own Churches in Africa (Alexandria's territory)

I hadn’t heard that. I did read a book this summer about an Athonite missionary to Zaire, but that’s Greek not Russian, and it was several decades ago

 

[buzuxi02]

I read that the Russian Church is trying to set up their own Churches in Africa (Alexandria's territory)

There are a few ROCOR churches in Africa. ROCOR was worldwide but I never heard of MP churches in Africa.
To be honest I think making Alexandria the patriarch of ALL Africa is not only ridiculous its unhistorical. Africa is the second largest and most diverse continent on the planet. Expecting a small operation like the Alexandrian patriarchate run by a handful of Europeans (many not even residing there) being able to oversee such a vast continent on their own is optimistic to put it mildly.

Originally when one spoke of the African church in ecclesiastical history it was the church of Carthage, Algeria and Tunisia they spoke of. It's where Tertullian, Cyprian and Augustine and the three Berber Popes came from. Alexandria had influence in the northeast part of the continent but their territory never spanned North Africa. When Orthodoxy speaks of the canons of the African code it has nothing to do with canons or councils formulated under Alexandria.

 

[Not David]

It seems like not so many people like the Pope of Alexandria now:
Interfax-Religion

 

[James4Christ 777]

Lord have mercy, we need a Holy Synod to deal with the recent divisions in the body of Christ.

 

[AMM]

It seems like not so many people like the Pope of Alexandria now:
Interfax-Religion

Things like this seem a bit too extreme to me and not like they’re helping anyone

 

[Not David]

Things like this seem a bit too extreme to me and not like they’re helping anyone

Yes, what he did might hurt some people but I don't think this letter will make him change his mind