Outranking Reality

[AV1611VET]

Your god does. A sensible god wouldn't "outrank" his own creation.

He not only can (and does) outrank it, He is going to destroy it and remake it.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

I guess, according to you, that makes Him 'insensible'?

 

[Freodin]

Are you using "creation" and "reality" synonymously?

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

He not only can (and does) outrank it, He is going to destroy it and remake it.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

I guess, according to you, that makes Him 'insensible'?

Yes, yes, we know it's going to happen in Ma..., no, er Oct. Yeah, that's the ticket, October 21,2011!

Coming to a city near you, reality to be outranked by god on Oct. 21, 2011.

From one of your guys www:

"Thus we can be sure that the whole world, with the exception of those who are presently saved (the elect), are under the judgment of God, and will be annihilated together with the whole physical world on October 21, 2011, on the last day of the present five months period. On that day the true believers (the elect) will be raptured. We must remember that only God knows who His elect are that He saved prior to May 21."

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, yes, we know it's going to happen in Ma..., no, er Oct. Yeah, that's the ticket, October 21,2011!

I'd quit while I'm behind, Frenchy.

You're only making yourself look worse.

That passage in 2 Peter occurs after the Millennial Reign.

 

[Freodin]

Yes, yes, we know it's going to happen in Ma..., no, er Oct. Yeah, that's the ticket, October 21,2011!

Coming to a city near you, reality to be outranked by god on Oct. 21, 2011.

From one of your guys www:

"Thus we can be sure that the whole world, with the exception of those who are presently saved (the elect), are under the judgment of God, and will be annihilated together with the whole physical world on October 21, 2011, on the last day of the present five months period. On that day the true believers (the elect) will be raptured. We must remember that only God knows who His elect are that He saved prior to May 21."

This one is not a True Christian. He is a date setter, who you should not listen to.

The real True Christians are those who say that the End of The World will come, as NASA announced, in 2036. Or those who say it comes "within their lifetimes". Or within a generation of whatever event they want to say marks the beginning of the end.

The trick is to be able to move the date long enough until either you or your critics are dead... this effectively removes all criticism as well as any responsibilities.

 

[Freodin]

I'd quit while I'm behind, Frenchy.

You're only making yourself look worse.

That passage in 2 Peter occurs after the Millennial Reign.

So it is not exactly 1000 years?

 

[AV1611VET]

The real True Christians are those who say that the End of The World will come, as NASA announced, in 2036.

Ditto for you: 44

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

I'd quit while I'm behind, Frenchy.

You're only making yourself look worse.

That passage in 2 Peter occurs after the Millennial Reign.

Why are you telling me this?

BTW, 1/2/ Peter, Gospel of Peter, Acts of Peter, and the Apocalypse of Peter are all forgeries. So where does that leave your "Millennial Reign?"

 

[Jazer]

Yes, yes, we know it's going to happen in Ma..., no, er Oct. Yeah, that's the ticket, October 21,2011!

Actually the talk started back around 1996. Bill Gates even jumped on the band wagon insisting everyone had to have a new computer at the start of the year 2000. They cleaned up pretty good making money on that one. I think that as we get closer to the 2000 year anniversity of the church that people will start to write books and try to cash in on that. I talk about 2029 & 2036, but for now this has not really gotten popular and caught on yet.

 

[Jazer]

The real True Christians are those who say that the End of The World will come, as NASA announced, in 2036.

Actually that would be dispensationists. Not all christians believe in the theory of dispensationalism. Although most do tend to believe that the reign of Christ will be 1000 years.

 

[Jazer]

He is going to destroy it and remake it.

He is going to allow people to destroy themselves. Right now God is restraining them. From what I understand the president always has a button with him that he can push and destory the world.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

I guess, according to you, that makes Him 'insensible'?

God is "insensible" for allowing people to have what they want and to do what they want?

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

Actually the talk started back around 1996. Bill Gates even jumped on the band wagon insisting everyone had to have a new computer at the start of the year 2000. They cleaned up pretty good making money on that one. I think that as we get closer to the 2000 year anniversity of the church that people will start to write books and try to cash in on that. I talk about 2029 & 2036, but for now this has not really gotten popular and caught on yet.

Camping:

"He had previously predicted judgment days on May 21, 1988, and September 7, 1994"

 

[Freodin]

Ditto for you: 44

Again the question: so the millenial reign isn't a thousand years?

 

[Freodin]

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

God is "insensible" for allowing people to have what they want and to do what they want?

People want the earth to be destroyed?

 

[Split Rock]

He not only can (and does) outrank it, He is going to destroy it and remake it.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

I guess, according to you, that makes Him 'insensible'?

No. 'Insensible' means stunned or unconscious. It does make him senseless, however.

 

[Split Rock]

He not only can (and does) outrank it, He is going to destroy it and remake it.

He is going to allow people to destroy themselves. Right now God is restraining them. .[/COLOR]

Looks like you guys aren't being guided by the Holy Spirit to the same answers... funny how you both peddle it as "the truth."

 

[Tiberius]

I'm surprised you need clarification.

Ah, so when you ask if God can "outrank reality" you are just asking if God can perform miracles.

Well then, let's try this...

Can Obi-Wan Kenobi use the force? I think you'll find the correct answer to this question is exactly the same as the correct answer to your question.

 

[Tiberius]

Notice the triad of triads here as well?

• time = past, present, future
• space = length, width, height
• matter = gas, solid, liquid

lol, you haven't studied much past primary school, have you? There are many more than three states of matter.

1 The three classical states

1.1 Solid
1.2 Liquid
1.3 Gas

2 Non classical states

2.1 Glass
2.2 Crystals with some degree of disorder
2.3 Liquid crystal states
2.4 Magnetically ordered
2.5 Microphase-separated

3 Low-temperature states

3.1 Superfluids
3.2 Bose-Einstein condensates
3.3 Fermionic condensates
3.4 Rydberg molecules
3.5 Quantum Hall states
3.6 Strange matter

4 High-energy states

4.1 Plasma (ionized gas)
4.2 Quark-gluon plasma

You gonna go and find this much stuff for all the other things you mentioned in order to keep them symmetrical, or are you gonna claim that this stuff doesn't count?

 

[AV1611VET]

You gonna go and find this much stuff for all the other things you mentioned in order to keep them symmetrical, or are you gonna claim that this stuff doesn't count?

I'll stick with the classical.

 

[Split Rock]

I'll stick with the classical.

OK. How about the four elements: fire, water, air, earth? Or are we cherry-picking to support a presumption once again?