Outranking Reality

[AV1611VET]

So, either God is subject to reality, or God can't act because he isn't real.

Ever heard of "miracles"?

 

[AV1611VET]

Being outside of reality means you don't exist.

Ever head of the doctrine of "Transcendence"?

Transcendence is one of God's natural attributes.

 

[Mling]

Ever heard of "miracles"?

If they exist, then they are real, and thus exist in reality.

 

[Mling]

Ever head of the doctrine of "Transcendence"?

Transcendence is one of God's natural attributes.

Transcendence of what, though-- of time? Ok. Nature? Sure. Reality itself? Well again--if the word reality refers to everything that is real, then what does it mean to be outside of that set? It means not being real.

 

[AV1611VET]

Transcendence of what, though-- of time? Ok. Nature? Sure. Reality itself? Well again--if the word reality refers to everything that is real, then what does it mean to be outside of that set? It means not being real.

The universe is made up of time, space and matter -- what is called the continuum.

The Bible says:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

• In the beginning = time
• heaven = space
• earth = matter

Notice the triad of triads here as well?

• time = past, present, future
• space = length, width, height
• matter = gas, solid, liquid

For God to have created the continuum, He would have to be outside of it, else He is a part of the pre-existing continuum itself, and thus not the Creator.

You're limiting God to His own continuum -- a big mistake.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

Gordon's alive?!

Nah... love the Queen soundtrack, but I just can't buy Brian Blessed as flying with those cardboard wings.

 

[Nostromo]

Heathen!

 

[Freodin]

The universe is made up of time, space and matter -- what is called the continuum.

The Bible says:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

• In the beginning = time
• heaven = space
• earth = matter

Notice the triad of triads here as well?

• time = past, present, future
• space = length, width, height
• matter = gas, solid, liquid

For God to have created the continuum, He would have to be outside of it, else He is a part of the pre-existing continuum itself, and thus not the Creator.

You're limiting God to His own continuum -- a big mistake.

You seem to be a triffle confused about what is "real".

But we already knew that, didn't we?

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

Is god a non-stamp collector too?

 

[AV1611VET]

Is god a non-stamp collector too?

As I have said before, one of the reasons I believe in God is because I don't believe in atheism.

 

[super animator]

If they exist, then they are real, and thus exist in reality.

It's amazing how av fails to comprehend the even the simplest logic.

 

[super animator]

What the heck does it mean to "outrank reality" anyway av?

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

As I have said before, one of the reasons I believe in God is because I don't believe in atheism.

I don't believe in it either.

 

[super animator]

I don't believe in it either.

He's confused.

 

[Jazer]

He's confused.

Actually you have to be hot or cold. If your luke warm God will spew you out. That does not mean you lose your salvation. It means that you do not represent God. So you will lose any reward that you would have received.

3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's amazing how av fails to comprehend the even the simplest logic.

What the heck does it mean to "outrank reality" anyway av?

What did I say it meant, Mr. Comprehension?

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[AV1611VET]

He's confused.

I'll say. His faith icon disagrees with him.

 

[Davian]

Can God outrank reality?

Is Micky Mouse real?

To the point, can Mickey Mouse outrank anyone on the Disney Corporation's board of directors?

 

[AV1611VET]

Actually you have to be hot or cold. If your luke warm God will spew you out. That does not mean you lose your salvation. It means that you do not represent God. So you will lose any reward that you would have received.

Ya -- all this stuff about:

• weak atheist/strong agnostic
• strong atheist/weak agnostic
• strong agnostic/weak atheist
• strong atheist/not agnostic
• not agnostic/weak atheist
• not atheist/weak agnostic
• etc.

... gives me a headache --

 

[Split Rock]

Can God outrank reality?

Your god does. A sensible god wouldn't "outrank" his own creation.