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can you support the humanism claim ?They didnt hear or listen because God did not give them ears to hear..
matt 13
11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
For those who dont hear the call , its not given to them[by grace] to hear..
Contrary to you religon which is based all on humanism..its not of God..
They didnt hear or listen because God did not give them ears to hear..
matt 13
11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
please note:
Matthew 13:15
"... and I shall heal them." a citation from Isaiah; a prophecy in which heal is rendered in the future indicative. Parallel to John 12:40
indicating a future healing of this spiritual condition.
because you always directly make assumptions of other irrelevant issues to sidetrack the converstation....why Lord .......... why does every thread turn into a fight ??????????????????????
Christ was quoting the prophecy of Isaiah; the reference is to those who cannot hear, and the concluding statement is that they will be healed at a future time. I don't understand how that is a "false Gospel"; perhaps you could explain ?The way to go, just pull a verse out of its immediate context and build a false doctrine..
God at the same time has forknowlede of the saved but at the same time He does not predestine..In His mysterious ways He is capable of doing just that.
Christ was quoting the prophecy of Isaiah; the reference is to those who cannot hear, and the concluding statement is that they will be healed at a future time. I don't understand how that is a "false Gospel"; perhaps you could explain ?
REPENTANCE-FAITH-SALVATION
I was correcting the tense of the verb in the concluding statement of the verses you quoted from Matthew; how does the variation in the tense (back to the original) make the statement quoted in Matthew now false ?You are makig it a false gospel..BTW unless you deal with the scriptures I have given you really are not going to be worth my time , no disrespect, but I have given too many scriptures for you to ignore and you pick out one here and there and out of context
because you always directly make assumptions of other irrelevant issues to sidetrack the converstation....
Here:"Contrary to you religon which is based all on humanism..its not of God.."
God bless,
Philothei
Sorry he does not call the non elect to salvation , only the chosen ones..
Look up 1Thessanolians 2:15 "Therefor Brethren stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our writings."They didnt hear or listen because God did not give them ears to hear..
matt 13
11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
For those who dont hear the call , its not given to them[by grace] to hear..
Contrary to you religon which is based all on humanism..its not of God..
I should have said y'all... instead of you sorry..because you always directly make assumptions of other irrelevant issues to sidetrack the converstation....
Here:"Contrary to you religon which is based all on humanism..its not of God.."
God bless,
Philothei
I should have said y'all... instead of you sorry... here it is corrected.
God bless,
Philothei
Look up 1Thessanolians 2:15 "Therefor Brethren stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our writings."
These are not man's traditions, but God inspired. We are not cut off.... we are connected with the apostolic tradition since we use also the same language... as the original that of the Gospels...
God bless,
Philothei
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