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He was quickened in the spirit, meaning he became a spirit as he was since the beginning before he became flesh. His body would have been transformed from flesh and blood to spiritual since flesh and blood cannot enter into heaven.What happened to His body?
No deception, it would only be perceived that way if someone first told you this being was three parts and later you were told that this being was just one. That would be where the confusion would come from, otherwise you would understand that the being has said that he is one and only one. That the nature of his existence was beyond our understanding and was/is a great mystery we cannot now understand.
The example he has given us on this earth is water existing in three forms but still remains water.
I'm not talking about theotes (G2320) which is a noun. I'm talking about theios (G2304) which is an adjective.
No need to add scripture brother God clearly shows us he is one being here.But you have no evidence in Scripture to prove your case that God exists in the way that you say. We need something like a verse or set of verses explaining this.
Something like:
"And God who is one mind and one person only talked with Himself between the Father and the Son." (Anti-Trinitarian Missing Bible Verse 1:1).
And or:
"At Christ's baptism, when God revealed Himself as one mind and one person in the form of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, He was showing us His difference functions of his offices to the glory of Himself. Do not be deceived by His three different appearances that merely show His different functions as being three different persons. The Lord our God is one person, one mind; He is one God." (Anti-Trinitarian Missing Bible Verse 2:1).
And or:
"And God said, "Let me make man in my image, and my likeness."" (Anti-Trinitarian Replacement Bible Verse 1:1) (Note: It should say, Let us make man in our image and our likeness).
"My office as the Son and the office of the Father are all functions of one God." (Anti-Trinitarian Replacement Bible Verse 2:1). (Note: It should say, I and the Father are one).
"And the fulness of God dwelled within Christ bodily." (Anti-Trinitarian Replacement Bible Verse 3:1). (Note: It should say: "And the fulness of the Godhead dwelled within Christ bodily.").
No need to add scripture brother God clearly shows us he is one being here.
Eph 4:4-6
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Deut 6:4
4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
Isa 44:24,6,8
24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
James 2:19
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
1 Corinthians 8:6
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Thomas called Christ Lord and God in,
John 20:28
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Yahshua called himself God in,
John 8:58
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 10:29-30, 36-38
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
John 17:11, 21-22
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Yahweh says Yahshua is his son and calls Yahshua God.
Hebrews 1:2-8
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Yahshua says that the father dwelleth in him, and that he and the Father are one.
John 14:9-11
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Yahshua is the Image and the fulness of the Godhead(Yahweh) bodily.
Collosians 1:14-15
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Collosians 2:8-9
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Romans 8:29
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Yahweh says a son will be born, and that sons name will be God with us, the Mighty God, and the everlasting Father.
Matt 1:22-23
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Isaiah 9:6-7
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
The Lord God Yahweh is the Father(Yahweh) The son(Yahshua) and the holy spirit. And he is one(The Father, Yahweh).
2 Corinthians 3:13-17
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
John 15:26
26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Phillipians 2:5-12
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
john 1:1,14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Gal 3:20
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
1 Timothy 2:3-5
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1 Corinthians 12:4-6
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
God has always said that he is one God, not three Gods or three parts of a God. Just simply One incorruptible God.
The bible doesn't say he is three distinct persons, only that he is one. You have to add to the bible to make it say they are three distinct persons.You seem to be confused as to what I believe. I also believe God is one God, too. He is just also exists as three distinct persons, along with existing as one God, as well.
The bible doesn't say he is three distinct persons, only that he is one. You have to add to the bible to make it say they are three distinct persons.
It's obvious for many reasons in Scripture.
Here are a couple of quick points:
#1. The word Elohim (אֱלֹהִ֔ים) is both a singular and a plural noun.
#2. God refers to Himself in the plural form (Genesis 1:26) (Genesis 3:22) (Genesis 11:7) (Isaiah 6:8).
#3. Plurality of God in New Testament (Matthew 28:19) (2 Corinthians 13:14) (John 14:16-20).
#4. Introductions to both the Son & Holy Spirit (Daniel 7:9-10, Daniel 7:13-14) (John 14:16)
#5. Different persons of Godhead appear at one time (Luke 3:21-22)
#6. Distinctions of Wills (Luke 22:42).
#7. Conversations Between the Godhead (Psalms 2:1-12) (Psalms 45:6-7) (Psalms 110:1) (Matthew 11:27) (John 17:24).
He was quickened in the spirit, meaning he became a spirit as he was since the beginning before he became flesh. His body would have been transformed from flesh and blood to spiritual since flesh and blood cannot enter into heaven.
I'm sorry brother I do not understand the question?What is the Christian hope?
-CryptoLutheran
1. He is one God, Yah.
2. He speaks to the son and the holy spirit, as they are all one.
3. Matthew 28:19 that name is Yahshua the Christ the only name given on earth to be baptized in. 2 Corinthians 13:14 different administrations. John 14:16-20 Yes he is in the father and the father in him and the spirit in him and the spirit int he father and they are all one, as the say many times throughout the bible.
4. (Daniel 7:9-10, Daniel 7:13-14) (John 14:16) Yes they have been since the beginning as one God, not three parts of one but simply one as we are told time and time again.
5. Different forms but the same God at one time, not three different persons. But one God.
6. Luke 22:42 Yes the Flesh desired one thing and father another. He was still a man in the flesh when he said this.
7. Yes the Father and the son and the holy spirit speak with each other but remain one and the Lord tells us over and over again. Never saying that he is three parts or three different persons but one God
Again brother none of these say he is three persons but one God.
I'm sorry I could not help you see the truth brother.I know that these were not going to convince you. You are simply seeing what you want to see. So I will let it rest.
May God bless you.
I'm sorry brother I do not understand the question?
Right. So the many men who worked on the KJV (and double checked each other's work) translating the Bible into English got it wrong and you (just one solo guy) got it right? Sorry, I trust those men far more than I trust your sole interpretation on the Greek, my friend. However, the translators on the KJV are not my sole or ultimate reason why I believe the KJV to be trust worthy. I trust the KJV because it is the divinely inspired Word of God. God's Word said His Word was pure; And I believe Him.
The bible doesn't say he is three distinct persons, only that he is one. You have to add to the bible to make it say they are three distinct persons.
Whoa where is this supported?He was quickened in the spirit, meaning he became a spirit as he was since the beginning before he became flesh. His body would have been transformed from flesh and blood to spiritual since flesh and blood cannot enter into heaven.
The Bible demonstrates Three Divine Persons.The bible doesn't say he is three distinct persons, only that he is one. You have to add to the bible to make it say they are three distinct persons.
The ResurrectionI'm sorry brother I do not understand the question?
1. We will be as the angels with a spiritual body.I had a feeling maybe I was being too vague.
My question is what is our hope as Christians? What is it that we are looking forward to? What's the overall big picture point of the Christian religion?
The historic, orthodox Christian teaching is this: There is a good creator God who made everything, He is the author of the universe, and declared His creation to be "exceedingly good". But we also see a problem: suffering, sin, death. The Christian conviction is that these things are an aberration, a cruelty, a tyranny under which all of creation is currently subjugated. The entire biblical drama is ultimately the story of God's redemption coming home in the person of Jesus Christ. He is the reason God called Abraham out from Ur, He is the reason God established a covenant with the children of Jacob, He is the promised King Messiah from the Seed of David. It is through this Jesus that God redeems, rescues, restores, and renews all of creation. By His death and resurrection He has conquered sin, death, hell, and the devil and, our union with Him by grace, means that what God has done for Jesus He will do for us. As St. Paul writes, "If the Spirit of Him who raised Christ from the dead dwells also in you, then He who raised Christ from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies also." (Romans 8:11). It is this promise of resurrection that we look forward to, to that day when this mortal shall put on immortality, this corruptible shall put on incorruptible, when it shall be said "Where O Death is your victory?" For death is swallowed up in victory, the victory of the children of God at Christ's glorious coming, when God shall make all things new, kingdom forever, world without end.
My hope as a Christian is that, at the end of all things, at the conclusion of history, the Lord Jesus will return. The dead shall be raised, flesh and bone shall walk again, because God shall destroy death utterly and completely--and there will be new heavens and new earth. Because God is unwilling that His creation perish in destruction and futility, but that all things shall be restored, made whole. Everlasting, unceasing, immortal and incorruptible life forever.
Fundamental, here, is that the Incarnation is not some transient episode. The Divine Logos did not simply put on a human mask, masquerade as one of us for a little while, and then discard His flesh and bone humanity after a little while. No, the Word became human. This One who was conceived in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary is, indeed, true God and truly human. As true man He is like us in all ways but without sin, He is not some temporary human, or human-like, or wearing a human suit. He is, indeed, very actually a human being in all that this means. There is, most truly, a human being seated at the right hand of the Father, because when the Word became flesh, when the Eternal Son united Himself to our humanity to become part of our human family it was forever. In this union of God and man the Creator and the created have been united in perfect unity of one Person. And it is through this Person, this God-Man, that death has been defeated, our sins washed away, and there is hope for a life that will never end.
So what is the Christian hope? What is all this about? What is the point of everything? What is Christianity anyway? If it's not any of this, then what is it?
-CryptoLutheran
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