One Hour

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Know what I mean Jelly Bean?

LOL! Cute.

 

[Dave Watchman]

I am very happy with meeting Jesus in the atmosphere.

I bet we'll all be happy that you are happy about that.

What I refute is going to heaven then, or at any time. Those who remain, which means all the living survivors of the Great Trib, God's holy people that are all on earth during the GT, as we see in Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7, will be transported the where Jesus is and will remain with Him for the Millennium, in Jerusalem.

"In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.​

You said it Keras. "God's holy people that are all on earth during the GT, will be transported to where Jesus IS and will remain with Him for the Millennium, in Jerusalem. You just left out the NEW Jerusalem.

Why do we have to meet Jesus in the air? Because Heaven, New Jerusalem, must receive Him until the time comes to restore "all things" about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago.. And that doesn't happen until AFTER the thousand years are finished and He says: "Behold I make "all things" new".

You cannot unroll a scroll until the Seals are removed. Plus; to shuffle Revelation is a very bad idea.

How did we get into the Seals? I'm sure that the "hour" has now arrived for us to get back to the OP topic. Lest HMFJ asks us to start our own thread.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

How did we get into the Seals? I'm sure that the "hour" has now arrived for us to get back to the OP topic. Lest HMFJ asks us to start our own thread.

LOL! As is my custom.

 

[Riberra]

According to Rev. 17:12 the ten kings will be given power as kings for one hour. Has this occurred and how is this one hour time period calculated in your opinion.

The answer to your question
Post #83 Page 5
Here:
The 3 Beasts of Revelation 13.

 

[Dave Watchman]

The answer to your question
Post #83 Page 5
Here:

Kings for ONE HOUR means the time needed for a ceremony that will be diffused on TV Worldwide.... The surprise will be that as soon as they will be ASSERMENTED KINGS they will immediately give their powers and 10 Kingdoms to the Beast.

That is what Revelation 17:13 tell us.
Revelation 17:13
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

"Kings for ONE HOUR means the time needed for a ceremony that will be diffused on TV Worldwide.... The surprise will be that as soon as they will be ASSERMENTED KINGS they will immediately give their powers and 10 Kingdoms to the Beast.

That is what Revelation 17:13 tell us.
Revelation 17:13
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.​

ONE HOUR means the time needed for a ceremony that will be diffused on TV Worldwide....?

That is what Revelation 17:13 tell us...?

So it sounds like you're saying that the "ONE HOUR" is a literal 60 minutes,
like the 60 minutes of a standard TV show. Because that's the time needed for a TV show?

Does this mean that when the one hour TV show is over, their power is gone?

Is that what Revelation 17 tells us?

I was looking at your 3 Beast thread and decided that I wouldn't be of any help to you guys over there.

It says that the ten kings give their power to the "beast".

"And the ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received royal power, but they are to receive authority as kings for one hour, together with the beast. These are of one mind, and they hand over their power and authority to the beast. ​

Which of Revelation's beasts do the ten kings hand their authority over to?

They give their power to the composite beast, who rises from the sea, that they are a part of. The dragon gives his power and his throne and great authority to the composite beast during the 42 months of Revelation 13. But after the 42 months are over, just a short time before the second coming, the ten kings turn against the Antichrist's Harlot and burn her with fire.

Can you see that during the 42 months, the Harlot was riding the composite beast that has ten horns and seven heads. This is the beast on whom the harlot is seated. Lucifer's evil church was calling the shots and directing the composite beast's actions and movements during the 42 months. It's during this time period that the dragon gives his power, throne and authority to the composite beast with the 7 heads and ten horns.

But something changes after the seventh trumpet. The vials start falling. The Antichrist's authority runs out. The composite beast's kingdom falls apart and they kick the harlot out. She's not seated on the composite beast anymore calling all the shots. The kingdom of the composite beast is being scorched with heat, suffering painful boils and have only blood to drink. Now they hate the harlot for deceiving them and they use their power to attack Lucifer's church, the image of the beast that was wounded by the sword. So the ten kings are not going to give their power over to the beast who set up the harlot that they are attacking, it wouldn't make any sense.

"And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute. They will make her desolate and naked, and devour her flesh and burn her up with fire, for God has put it into their hearts to carry out his purpose by being of one mind and handing over their royal power to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. ​

However long it takes for the ten kings to use their "one hour" of power to burn the harlot, it will probably take more than 60 minutes. Plus they've still got to worry about gathering for Armageddon. I would think that it has to be within around a space of days, maybe within 45 days, 1335 - 1290 = 45.

Get ready, my show's almost on.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

The answer to your question
Post #83 Page 5
Here:
The 3 Beasts of Revelation 13.

Interesting thought; But not plausible. The one year or 371 days are more plausible than a 60 minute t.v. time slot.

 

[Riberra]

Interesting thought; But not plausible. The one year or 371 days are more plausible than a 60 minute t.v. time slot.

The one hour TV show ceremony will be that we see the ten Kings being assermented which mean that they have received the LEGAL authority from their respective people from the 10 regions....but as soon that the 10 Kings will receive the legal authority they will give their powers and Kingdom unto the Beast [Antichrist Abaddon] all that will happen live on TV.....that was planned to happend that way ...

That is what God tell us in Revelation 17:12-13

Revelation 17:12-13
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

 

[Dave Watchman]

The one hour TV show ceremony will be that we see the ten Kings being assermented which mean that they have received the LEGAL authority from their respective people from the 10 regions....but as soon that the 10 Kings will receive the legal authority they will give their powers and Kingdom unto the Beast [Antichrist Abaddon] all that will happen live on TV.....that was planned to happend that way ...

That is what God tell us in Revelation 17:12-13​

Revelation 17:12-13
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.​

Are you saying that this happens at the start of the 42 months, or after the 42 months of Revelation 13 is finished?

Because it sounds as if you're saying that the ten king's "one hour" happens right at the beginning of the 42 months. But would you not agree that they burn the harlot at the end? Why then would they give their power to the same beast, the second beast, that seats the harlot on their organization?

Do they give their power to the FIRST beast that rises from the sea, or to the SECOND beast that rises from the earth?

Someone on another thread wrote a note about separating the essential from the non-essential beliefs. It sounded pretty good. It might apply to this. And I'm not trying to get caught up in the non-essential things, or trying to make non-essential things into essential beliefs. Sometimes it seems to take me longer to figure out exactly what it is that others believe, so that I can untangle the specifications. In my own mind at least.

 

[Riberra]

That is what God tell us in Revelation 17:12-13​

Revelation 17:12-13
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.​

Are you saying that this happens at the start of the 42 months, or after the 42 months of Revelation 13 is finished?

Because it sounds as if you're saying that the ten king's "one hour" happens right at the beginning of the 42 months. But would you not agree that they burn the harlot at the end?

The ten king's "one hour" happens right at the beginning of the 42 months.
They will give their power to the one that will be wounded at the Head Revelation 13:3...BUT THE 10 Kings WILL STAY IN CHARGE OF THEIR RESPECTIVE REGIONS as "Kings" UNTIL THE END.

Why then would they give their power to the same beast, the second beast, that seats the harlot on their organization?
Do they give their power to the FIRST beast that rises from the sea, or to the SECOND beast that rises from the earth?

The Beast that rise out of the sea is the BEAST GOVERNMENT WITH ITS 7 Heads [of the Luciferian hierarchy] and the ten horns [regions/kingdoms]

Someone on another thread wrote a note about separating the essential from the non-essential beliefs. It sounded pretty good. It might apply to this. And I'm not trying to get caught up in the non-essential things, or trying to make non-essential things into essential beliefs. Sometimes it seems to take me longer to figure out exactly what it is that others believe, so that I can untangle the specifications. In my own mind at least.

What is essential is to know that Revelation 17:8 tell us from where come
the Beast that the whole world shall wonder whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb = Revelation 13:3-8

 

[Dave Watchman]

They will give their power to the one that will be wounded at the Head Revelation 13:3...BUT THEY STAY IN CHARGE OF THEIR RESPECTIVE REGIONS as "Kings" UNTIL THE END.

That sounds accurate. It's just the timing of their power that remains an issue. The main thing is that they DO NOT give their power to to beast that rises from the earth. It's the dragon that gives HIS power to the ten king's first beast for 42 months. What I'm saying that may be different from your understanding is that this "one hour" of ten king power won't come until the 42 months are over with. Partly because during that time, the second beast's "harlot" sits on, or is directing the actions of the sea beast. It isn't until this arrangement ends that the ten kings use their power to burn the harlot. Another way to understand it is that the ten kings are not going to burn the harlot while the dragon gives them his power, his throne and his great authority.

The Beast that rise out of the sea is the BEAST GOVERNMENT WITH ITS 7 Heads [of the Luciferian hierarchy] and the ten horns [regions/kingdoms]

Agreed. I called that the composite beast, because it's made up of various parts.

What is essential is to know that Revelation 17:8 tell us from where come
the Beast that the whole world shall wonder whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb.

Agreed. It would be especially essential to know this if you were planning on being here when he rises up out of the abyss.

 

[Riberra]

Agreed. It would be especially essential to know this if you were planning on being here when he rises up out of the abyss.

The surprise is :If it happen when you will be alive then you will be there also to see it.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

One hour imho could be one year as Keras and Dave have said. The one hour represents the length of time the ten kings will be given royal authority.I don't see the beast giving power for 60 minutes. Shucks he might as well keep it if that is what he plans to do.

 

[Riberra]

That sounds accurate. It's just the timing of their power that remains an issue. The main thing is that they DO NOT give their power to to beast that rises from the earth.

The Beast that came out of the earth will be The False Prophet.

It's the dragon that gives HIS power to the ten king's first beast for 42 months.

Not to a KING But
To the ONE head of the Luciferian 7 heads yierarchy ]that will be wounded at the HEAD ....

What I'm saying that may be different from your understanding is that this "one hour" of ten king power won't come until the 42 months are over with.

Partly because during that time, the second beast's "harlot" sits on, or is directing the actions of the sea beast.

The HARLOT is a CITY not a beast.

 

[Riberra]

That sounds accurate. It's just the timing of their power that remains an issue. The main thing is that they DO NOT give their power to to beast that rises from the earth.

The Beast that came out of the earth will be The False Prophet.

It's the dragon that gives HIS power to the ten king's first beast for 42 months.

Not to a KING But
To the -ONE of the 7 heads- of the Luciferian yierarchy ]that will be wounded at the HEAD ....

What I'm saying that may be different from your understanding is that this "one hour" of ten king power won't come until the 42 months are over with.

Partly because during that time, the second beast's "harlot" sits on, or is directing the actions of the sea beast.

The HARLOT who is the Woman sitting on the Beast is a CITY not a beast.
Revelation 17:18
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

 

[Riberra]

One hour imho could be one year as Keras and Dave have said. The one hour represents the length of time the ten kings will be given royal authority.I don't see the beast giving power for 60 minutes. Shucks he might as well keep it if that is what he plans to do.

That is the 10 Kings who have received a kingdom for 1 Hour that will give their kingdom to the BEAST who was wounded at the Head [Revelation 13:3 not the reverse Revelation 17:8.

Revelation 17:12-13
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

 

[Dave Watchman]

One hour imho could be one year as Keras and Dave have said. The one hour represents the length of time the ten kings will be given royal authority.I don't see the beast giving power for 60 minutes. Shucks he might as well keep it if that is what he plans to do.

I agree. It's one of those things that just goes without saying. It just means a short time.

Look at all those times Jesus said his "hour" had not yet come.

"At this they tried to seize him, but no one laid a hand on him, because his hour had not yet come

"And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.”
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And what was he talking about, a matter of days. The time of His ordeal. From the time that they caught him and put Him on trial, all the way though the Crucifixion and until His Resurrection. A matter measured in days. A limited time to accomplish the Lord's specific purpose.

5610 hṓra – properly, an hour; (figuratively) a finite "season"; limited time or opportunity to reach a goal (fulfill a purpose); a divinely pre-set time-period; a limited period to accomplish the Lord's specific purpose, i.e. "the hour" in which specific characteristics prevail exactly like that for a limited time.​

 

[Dave Watchman]

The Beast that came out of the earth will be The False Prophet.

I'll agree, more or less. That's one of his names for sure.

Not to a KING But
To the -ONE of the 7 heads- of the Luciferian yierarchy ]that will be wounded at the HEAD ....

Nope, you're headed off track. The dragon gives his power to the whole composite beast, not just one of the "heads".

"And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority.​

I wonder where are you getting the "Luciferian hierarchy" from? Each of the heads DO have a blasphemous name written on them, so that should give us a big hint that they've got something to do with religion.

The HARLOT who is the Woman sitting on the Beast is a CITY not a beast.
Revelation 17:18
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

The HARLOT is not a city. It's Lucifer's theocratic government, his church/state "image" of the beast that was wounded by the sword. Like "woman" is a church, or the "Bride" of Christ. A HARLOT is a bad church. Revelation 17 calls the Harlot the "great city', but she's not a literal city. This is symbolic for it's large population of wicked members. Every city is made up of city-zens. This is similar to how the hate crazy and wicked mob went after our Lord:

"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.​

 

[Riberra]

A limited time to accomplish the Lord's specific purpose.
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5610 hṓra – properly, an hour; (figuratively) a finite "season"; limited time or opportunity to reach a goal (fulfill a purpose); a divinely pre-set time-period; a limited period to accomplish the Lord's specific purpose, i.e. "the hour" in which specific characteristics prevail exactly like that for a limited time.​

Revelation 17
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

Assermented as Kings during the ceremony of their assermentation and immediatel give their strengh and kinddom to ABADDON.

One hour [60 minutes] is also a short period of time ----- >think about it.

 

[Dave Watchman]

One hour is also a short period of time ----- >think about it.

It's just that 60 minutes is too short of a period of time, it's not feasible. It starts after the 7th trumpet, so they would have to do all 7 vials while burning the Harlot and then gather for Armageddon all within 60 minutes.

 

[Riberra]

It's just that 60 minutes is too short of a period of time, it's not feasible. It starts after the 7th trumpet, so they would have to do all 7 vials while burning the Harlot and then gather for Armageddon all within 60 minutes.

The 10 Kings start as simple rulers/governors of their regions---
After some weeks they are assermented Kings and at the end of the ceremony they give their strengh and Kingdom to ABADDON but remain in charge "Kings" of their respective regions/ Kingdoms untill the End.