The 3 Beasts of Revelation 13.

[Douggg]

Brexit doesn't mean anything. The AC will rule the whole world and he will be aided by then ten kings and kingdoms.

Well, you are free to believe whatever you want. But the bible doesn't say ten kingdoms.

 

[ewq1938]

Well, you are free to believe whatever you want. But the bible doesn't say ten kingdoms.

Yes it does:

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.


That's ten Kings that each have a kingdom for one hour with the beast.

 

[Riberra]

The problem with that is that Rev calls them kings which means they are not lowly
"administrators".

What good is it to believe something if it doesn't match what the bible says?

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.


G935
βασιλεύς
basileus
bas-il-yooce'
Probably from G939 (through the notion of a foundation of power); a sovereign (abstractly, relatively or figuratively): - king.

That is exactly what define their roles ...they are only pawns in the game.
(abstractly, relatively or figuratively): - king.



Kings for ONE HOUR means the time needed for a ceremony that will be diffused on TV Worldwide.... The surprise will be that as soon as they will be ASSERMENTED KINGS they will immediately give their powers and 10 Kingdoms to the Beast.

That is what Revelation 17:13 tell us.
Revelation 17:13
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

 

[Douggg]

Yes it does:

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.


That's ten Kings that each have a kingdom for one hour with the beast.

It is not each has a kingdom - because it says they give their kingdom - not kingdoms - to the beast.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

Plus it says fourth kingdom in Daniel 7. The ten kings come out that one kingdom. What I think is going to happen is that the EU will reform it's government structure into ten different blocks with some of the blocks made up of two or three countries to balance the population representation equally.

The foruth kingdom at the time of Jesus's first coming was the Roman Empire. The end times version is the EU. From the EU website.

Daniel 926 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

 

[Riberra]

Daniel 926 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

This have happened in 70 AD, the City ie Jerusalem and the Temple have been destroyed by the Roman army / the Prince was Titus-the people of the Prince >was the roman army.

 

[Riberra]

It is not each has a kingdom - because it says they give their kingdom - not kingdoms - to the beast.

One kingdom/region each .

10 kingdoms/regions

 

[Douggg]

One kingdom/region each .

10 kingdoms/regions

The problem is that that one world kingdom, comprised of ten blocks, concept doesn't work when it gets to the end times battles in Daniel 11.

 

[Douggg]

This have happened in 70 AD, the City ie Jerusalem and the Temple have been destroyed by the Roman army / the Prince was Titus-the people of the Prince >was the roman army.

Daniel 9 is not about prophesying Titus.

 

[Riberra]

Daniel 9 is not about prophesying Titus.

Daniel 9:23-27 is about the coming of the Messiah who shall Comfirm a Covenant -AND- the prince who shall destroy the city and the sanctuary...


Titus was the prince with his people[army] who have destroyed the City[Jerusalem] and the Temple as prophesied.

Daniel 9:26b
...and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

 

[Douggg]

Daniel 9:23-27 is about the coming of the Messiah who shall Comfirm a Covenant -AND- the prince who shall destroy the city and the sanctuary...


Titus was the prince with his people[army] who have destroyed the City[Jerusalem] and the Temple as prophesied.

Daniel 9:26b
...and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Titus is a insignificant figure in comparison to Jesus. There are not other prophecies in the bible that would connect to being Titus. The prince who shall come is the person who becomes the Antichrist. Which there are major passages throughout the bible on that person.

There is no reason in Daniel 9 to prophesy Titus.

 

[Riberra]

The problem is that that one world kingdom, comprised of ten blocks, concept doesn't work when it gets to the end times battles in Daniel 11.

The ten blocks are rather needed for that prophecy of Daniel 11 to happen.
This show a revolt of some regions against the tyran at some point in time ...tree regions or more likely the 3 leaders/rulers of these 3 regions will be plucked out and that will serve as example about what happen to those that will try to make a take over...

 

[Riberra]

Titus is a insignificant figure in comparison to Jesus. There are not other prophecies in the bible that would connect to being Titus. The prince who shall come is the person who becomes the Antichrist. Which there are major passages throughout the bible on that person.

There is no reason in Daniel 9 to prophesy Titus.

The City and the Temple have been destroyed as prophesied in Daniel 9:26b.

Daniel 9:26
...: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

 

[Douggg]

The ten blocks are rather needed for that prophecy of Daniel 11 to happen.
This show a revolt of some regions against the tyran at some point in time ...tree regions or more likely the 3 leaders/rulers of these 3 regions will be plucked out and that will serve as example about what happen to those that will try to make a take over...

I am not seeing removal of three kings at the end, but early in the seven years or before. They are going to have to be replaced to get back to the ten kings that will rule with the beast.

 

[Riberra]

I am not seeing removal of three kings at the end, but early in the seven years or before. They are going to have to be replaced to get back to the ten kings that will rule with the beast.

Exactly ...only few weeks after the tyran begin his 42 months reign.
That will happen at the beginning effectively...

 

[Douggg]

The City and the Temple have been destroyed as prophesied in Daniel 9:26b.

Daniel 9:26
...: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

The temple and city were destroyed - yes. But there is no significance to Titus. Titus didn't do anything that would warrant him being prophesied for. In Daniel 9:26, it prophesied Jesus - but Titus, really? No, not even.

 

[Riberra]

The temple and city were destroyed - yes. But there is no significance to Titus. Titus didn't do anything that would warrant him being prophesied for. In Daniel 9:26, it prophesied Jesus - but Titus, really? No, not even.

Daniel 9:26 have 2 part.

1-The Coming of the Messiah.

2-The people of the prince who will destroy the City and the Temple.
Titus was probaby insignifiant but he had a powerful army who have done the job.

 

[Douggg]

Daniel 9:26 have 2 part.

1-The Coming of the Messiah.

2-The people of the prince who will destroy the City and the Temple.
Titus was probaby insignifiant but he had a powerful army who have done the job.

The verse is not emphasizing the leader of that army will destroy the city and sanctuary. Instead the verse emphasizes the people will destroy the city and sanctuary - of a prince, being from that people, who shall come. The implication is that the prince will come later.

Well, we should be seeing some developments once the central banks around the world aren't able to artificially prop up the markets and the massive debt.

 

[Riberra]

The verse is not emphasizing the leader of that army will destroy the city and sanctuary. Instead the verse emphasizes the people will destroy the city and sanctuary - of a prince, being from that people, who shall come. The implication is that the prince will come later.

Jesus have come first... Jesus begin His ministry at the age of 30 and He was cut off at the age of 33 ...Jesus ministry lasted 3 1/2 years, He was cut off [killed] in the middle of the 70 TH Week as prophesied in Daniel 9.


The PEOPLE [army] of the Prince who shall destroy the City and the Temple came later as prophesied. This happened in 70 AD in the generation that was alive when Jesus was killed.

Well, we should be seeing some developments once the central banks around the world aren't able to artificially prop up the markets and the massive debt.

Time will tell.Since at least 2014 that the rumor of a major correction[crash] is in the air.

 

[Douggg]

Jesus have come first... Jesus begin His ministry at the age of 30 and He was cut off at the age of 33 ...Jesus ministry lasted 3 1/2 years, He was cut off [killed] in the middle of the 70 TH Week as prophesied in Daniel 9.


The PEOPLE [army] of the Prince who shall destroy the City and the Temple came later as prophesied. This happened in 70 AD in the generation that was alive when Jesus was killed.

There is no way that God sent Gabriel to tell Daniel about Titus.

 

[Riberra]

There is no way that God sent Gabriel to tell Daniel about Titus.

Daniel 9:25-26

About the Coming of the Messiah [Jesus]....AND....the destruction of the City and The Temple .God used the roman army to fulfill the prophecy about the destruction of the City and the Temple.

Daniel 9:25-26
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.