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hahaha, yes..... Thank you and REJOICE ALWAYS !just for a bit of humor .. this is subjective truth .. where i come from we turn the switch to the down position to bring the lights on .. but its the same switch lol
Yes, I think that's what JESUS said somewhere too - "you did not seek me" .... and "I CHOSE YOU" ...Following after THEY WERE CALLED. They did not go up to Jesus and spontaneously follow him UNTIL Jesus CALLED them. They did NOT seek after God on their own.
I absolutely agree with the word of god . but the verse doesn't actually have anything to do with the post it replies to . after all i am only repeating the gospel as it is written .. repent , be baptized for the remission of your sin and receive the holy ghost -these are the instructions on how to have His salvation that HE has provided through no effort of our own ,credited to our life - if one does not "obey " the gospel " there is dire eternal consequence .2John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
...ok thanks ,i will take the added information on board . So essentially to change one minds . to rethink, to turn again and go back towards god (as opposed to acting in opposition to him )..so essentially the same understanding reworded ..but thanks
haha yup.. as long as you turn again and switch it on instead of leaving it off and staying in the darkhahaha, yes..... Thank you and REJOICE ALWAYS !
I installed many, some up, some down, and a few sideways or pushbutton or slider up or down.
There's even some made, you just touch or put your hand close to or clap your hands together and whatever condition it's in , it changes to the next !
Romans 10:13-15Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)How does one hearken to an invitation meant for them unless they hear the invitation presented to them so that it resonates?
haha yup.. as long as you turn again and switch it on instead of leaving it off and staying in the dark
Great addition to my post. Thank you.Romans 10:13-15Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
13 since everyone who calls on the name of Adonai will be delivered.a]">[a]
14 But how can they call on someone if they haven’t trusted in him? And how can they trust in someone if they haven’t heard about him? And ...
how can they hear about someone if no one is proclaiming him? 15 And how can people proclaim him unless God sends them? — as the Tanakh puts it, “How beautiful are the feet of those announcing good news about good things!”b]">[b]
Footnotes:
- Romans 10:13 Joel 3:5(2:32)
- Romans 10:15 Isaiah 52:7
1 john ch 3 states that if a person continues to practice sin (not much up one time -but continues to practice it repeatedly ).. they are not OF god .. these are not my words .they are scripture . address the scriptures .
No - there's a few orGreat addition to my post. Thank you.
Have you found the scripture that tells you when you die you aren't saved yet? Until Jesus returns in his second coming? And then you're saved?
Yeah, me either.
ok thanks ,i will take the added information on board . So essentially to change one minds . to rethink, to turn again and go back towards god (as opposed to acting in opposition to him )..so essentially the same understanding reworded ..but thanks
The false teachers are like bad seed that produce bad fruit that spreads across the landscape. It should be plucked out by the roots.No - there's a few or
several posters following lying teachers who say they cannot be born again UNTIL after they die;
or they cannot DO WHAT JESUS SAYS UNTIL after they die,
or worse - THEY CANNOT KNOW that they are saved EVER! (they may say they find out after they die, but by then it is too late according to GOD'S WORD, isn't it? ) .
YHWH HELP THEM, and us - all we can do is tell the truth (plant / water seed) and let them go ...
My experience with both sides is quite different - those who don't believe things contrary to Scripture take care to honor YHWH and guard Scripture and "work out their salvation (the way YHWH means this) with fear (the way YHWH means this) and trembling" We TREMBLE AT YHWH'S WORD , in JOYOUS RAMBUNCTIOUS EXTRAVAGANT GENEROUS WITHOUT MEASURE FREEDOM IN Y'SHUA and a totally clean conscience (no part nor present sins nor thoughts of sinning any more) ;I have experienced that sometimes those who do not accept eternal security, have in their history done something they feel that God has let them go.
so what you had revealed to you as wrong to do .. and were chastised for doing .you then ceased to do ..yes ?SHAME?! Gee, isn't that nice... (Will claim Romans 8:1 kjv-- thankyou very much) And don't see it that way sister but sorry you do-- was simply giving example real life example btw of how I was shamed/chastised for simply doing such a harmless worldly secular perhaps but come on! gonna lose my salvation burn in hell for it-- is important to show expose the wrong thinking of these Gospel falsifiers...
Anyway, have since given up such pursuits and in the meantime have separated more from world concerning such things but was frightening to somewhat new believer/baby Christian to hear-- is wrong!
Sure wish they had eye rolling smiley here cuz I sure could use it at times.
No worries;I felt what I had to say was contributing/useful-- now whose the judge round here?!
discussion does not equal deadhorse lol.Not to beat a dead horse but I want to be clear... the English word repent carries the idea of turning away from sin, amending your life, feeling guilt and remorse, or changing the mind. That is NOT the concept behind teshuvah, it simply means "to return." Here is verse where we see the word:
Deut 30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.
If this had been taken from Greek, it probably would have been rendered, "if you shall repent and obey the voice of the LORD." However, if you go back and start at Deut. 30:1 and read through verse 8 here, the context is not turning from sin, feeling guilt or remorse, it is solely and purely dealing with returning from the exile that God scattered His people into.
Here is another worth weighing in...
Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
If this were written in Hebrew, which most scholars believe Matthew was, it would have been teshuvah where we see repent. So "Return, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Why is return important to understand? Context...
Matthew 15:24 But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
See, Deut. 30:1-6, Hosea 1... a score of other places... have a promise that God will call BACK from the nations the ones who were scattered into them. In fact, it is one of the most repeated and as-yet-unfulfilled prophesies in Scripture. So RETURN is God calling us BACK.
That is different than us changing our minds.
interested .. who has ever said that ?No - there's a few or
several posters following lying teachers who say they cannot be born again UNTIL after they die;
or they cannot DO WHAT JESUS SAYS UNTIL after they die,
or worse - THEY CANNOT KNOW that they are saved EVER! (they may say they find out after they die, but by then it is too late according to GOD'S WORD, isn't it? ) .
YHWH HELP THEM, and us - all we can do is tell the truth (plant / water seed) and let them go ...
round and roundits a circular argument topic also ..
Catholics are christians. They believe the gospel too. They believe that Jesus saves. Althought I think they add to the salvation process (which i do not agree), but they are saved nonetheless.agree, repent and follow Christ ")
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