PsychoSarah
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Some people have really, really bad reading comprehension, though... which was actually a huge problem when I was debating an anti-vaccine person. Especially when it came to reading graphs.
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Some people have really, really bad reading comprehension, though... which was actually a huge problem when I was debating an anti-vaccine person. Especially when it came to reading graphs.I remember I spent weeks on the 'Rates of Spontaneous Mutations' paper, all I got from it was actually a few lines that were useful. Scientific literature is rarely an easy read, but that doesn't make it incomprehensible.
With vaccines it's really just about the math, 60 dollars in vaccines vs. how much for treatment when you get sick and could have avoided it early? My whole time in the Army I thought I was a pin cushion, I got more Hepatitis shots, they just keep saying it has a tendency to mutate.Some people have really, really bad reading comprehension, though... which was actually a huge problem when I was debating an anti-vaccine person. Especially when it came to reading graphs.
Anyone with a kindergarten education has the ability to rebut evolution claims.
Matthew 18:3 Jesus says, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you change and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.”
With vaccines it's really just about the math, 60 dollars in vaccines vs. how much for treatment when you get sick and could have avoided it early? My whole time in the Army I thought I was a pin cushion, I got more Hepatitis shots, they just keep saying it has a tendency to mutate.
Anyone with a kindergarten education has the ability to rebut evolution claims.
Matthew 18:3 Jesus says, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you change and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.”
Here is one for you...do you realize that all language used in the subjunctive mood (even in scientific papers and studies) does not indicate fact only theoretical plausibility? Pick out a favorite or two from right now and take out all the subjunctive implied possibilities and see if the conclusion still applies.
Sometimes it does and other times it will not. Real objectivity is also very difficult since we ALL walk into it full of pre-supposed assumptions. Now eliminate those as well and read what is left for what it ACTUALLY is and usually we get a whole new perspective.
1 Corinthians 13:11. 'When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.'
Yet, after 4 years of being a member of this site, people continue to disappoint me with how little evidence they have for their claims of there being deities, etc.
With vaccines it's really just about the math, 60 dollars in vaccines vs. how much for treatment when you get sick and could have avoided it early? My whole time in the Army I thought I was a pin cushion, I got more Hepatitis shots, they just keep saying it has a tendency to mutate.
-_- what irked me about debating a person about vaccines was that they couldn't understand that complications from vaccines are rare, and are lesser to the number of people that would die from infections from diseases such as measles if no one was vaccinated.
You've shown me this thing before. Time to show you all its flaws. I even copied and pasted it for the purpose of addressing it exactly as it is rather than paraphrasing.God is Spirit. You need spiritual tools for analysis.
Four years and you are still looking for something
using the wrong tools? See below:
Answered Prayer - Steps 1, 2, & 3
The only thing I have prayed for in the past 8 years is belief. By the logic of your religion, since belief and accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and savior is the only path to heaven and the only way to avoid an eternal hell, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that, from the Christian god perspective, this should be what is best for me, and anyone I could potentially convert. Unless you think that me burning in hell benefits more people than my salvation, so the deity would just abandon me. And if that is the case, then prayer would be a pointless activity on my part.ow does one get their prayers answered?
One has to "make a request" and continue making the request
over and over. Eventually you realize that your request focused
on what you want. Is what you want really the best?
-_- from my perspective, what you are suggesting is that I have been rejected, for whatever reason, and should just accept that I will never get an answer.Then you have to understand that The Father already knew about the
request before you started. At some point you need to
stop pushing your own agenda and fully release the results
over to God and KNOW that your request has already been
fully answered. You should pray as Jesus instructed us to.
At the instant that you fully release your ego from the results
Is praying for belief egotistical? Most would say otherwise. I'm not asking the deity to literally show itself to me, but rather a change in my perspective or, perhaps, some subtle guidance that would lead me to the belief I seek.The Father will instantly grant your request, and in my experience
will flood your mind with relief. Usually, you get the relief
and "knowing" just before the prayer is answered.
http://biblehub.com/greek/2316.htm
What would it even mean to "fully remove one's ego" from prayer? I'm not a proud person. In fact, my expectation is that, if deities do exist, they wouldn't care about us enough to even bother with our prayers. Doesn't stop me from trying, though.I've only reached the point of fully removing my ego from the
prayer a few times, but the results where quite dramatic as if
God has reached in and changed the world around me, it seemed.
The landscape and the weather changed in one instant, one time.
Sounds like you kept lowering the scope and standards of your request until it became so realistic that said events were liable to happen regardless of any deity's intervention. That, and you are ignoring the bulk of your prayers that don't get answered. Unless everything you pray for demands a miracle to happen, if you keep changing what you pray for, you are bound to get a prayer "answered" eventually.On continued analysis, what I discovered was that God had changed
my prayer to match was about to occur and made sure the
timing was correct, just to let me know He was there.
-_- in other words, you had to fulfill the request yourself. If you could do it yourself the whole time, why bother nagging a deity over it? You should save yourself some time and skip the praying part and just start out doing it yourself.In one case, I needed dramatic help.
In another, a second person needed dramatic help.
In another, the request was stupid, but still granted.
The commonality between all events was the total
release of the request from my ego that called for
me having control over the outcome.
There are, from the perspective of a Christian, only 2 outcomes for me. Either I believe, or I am locked out of a positive afterlife forever. I'm already well aware that my degree of control over my views is not strong enough for me to force a transition from atheist to theist. Hence why I try prayer, what so many theists claim allows interaction with a deity.This method needed to allow the Spirit in is:
to suppress your desire to control the outcome
and even your insistence on controlling the request.
By that logic, the answer is that deities don't exist or, if they do, don't care to make their existence known.The Father already heard your past and future prayers
before He formed the World.
He then set up the entire world to answer each one of
your prayers and conversations with Him.
Why say that twice in a row? It doesn't make the statement any stronger.Again:
He then set up the entire world to answer each one of
your prayers and conversations with Him.
Any prayers answered that would actually demand magic? Probably not, but worth asking.Now all one has to do is trust His judgment to either
get their prayer changed, or their prayer answered
as He wills it. But on the occasion of true surrender,
He steps in AS IF with a magic wand and grants your
prayers.
So... what prayer was answered on your personal behalf? Unless it was an outcome that is unreasonable to expect, such as "the first time you prayed to win the lottery, you found the winning ticket on the ground outside", there's no reason for us non-Christians to attribute the "prayer fulfillment" to the prayer itself.On one occasion, God answered my prayers weeks
before I prayed for somebody else's benefit.
He then handed me the prayer in those minutes
before answering it just so I would know He was with there
and was the "God With Us".
I'm still a non-believer. 8 years of weekly praying for the same thing.
So... what prayer was answered on your personal behalf? Unless it was an outcome that is unreasonable to expect, such as "the first time you prayed to win the lottery, you found the winning ticket on the ground outside", there's no reason for us non-Christians to attribute the "prayer fulfillment" to the prayer itself.
Some people have really, really bad reading comprehension, though... which was actually a huge problem when I was debating an anti-vaccine person. Especially when it came to reading graphs.
You very well know others disagree with you on that, and that this brings me absolutely no comfort. Regardless, your "guide" to getting prayers answered demands that most prayers are going to be rejected. It also doesn't distinguish between religions.It doesn't sound like you're an unbeliever at all.
It only takes a few minutes, and you get your answer.
Actually, you've already received it.
The only way into Hell is to purposely reject Gods Holy Spirit.
I see no evidence that you have done that.
You will not be allowed into Hell.
It was also mandatory that all soldiers get a flu shot, it always made me sick. The one I really hated was the anthrax vaccine, at times we were required to start the series. When this was offered to Postal workers hardly any took the shots even though a couple of workers had been killed from anthrax in the mail. Certain vaccines have been wonder drugs Polio and Small Pox come to mind.Certain vaccines require that you get multiple shots to be effective. For Hep A, it takes 2 shots, six months apart. Hep B is 3-4 shots (varies on age) all within a 6 month period.
However, XD their excuse for giving so many shots is incorrect, seeing as, in adults, a round of Hep B vaccinations will last you up to 25 years. If the virus mutated frequently, such as the flu virus, you'd need a round of shots every year just to keep up. The actual reason is that more shots = better protection from the disease in question, since your body is more used to dealing with the dead virus in the vaccines with the added practice.
A question you may be asking yourself is "why more shots for Hep B than Hep A"? This is where your money concern comes in. Hep A is a less severe disease than Hep B; most people that contract Hep A eventually get over the disease as long as they get medical treatment, and it doesn't result in chronic liver problems or becoming a carrier that can spread it to other people. So, more money goes to preventing Hep B, which often does become a chronic liver disease.
-_- what irked me about debating a person about vaccines was that they couldn't understand that complications from vaccines are rare, and are lesser to the number of people that would die from infections from diseases such as measles if no one was vaccinated.
Unlikely that it was the vaccine itself that made you sick, since even in the nasal spray (the only one I know that is a "live", relatively intact virus) the virus is weakened to the point that it is unlikely to cause illness. You could be mistaking different diseases for the flu. For example, a lot of people complain that they have the "flu" when they are vomiting a lot and have a fever, but violent vomiting and diarrhea are not particularly common symptoms with the flu (especially uncommon in adults).It was also mandatory that all soldiers get a flu shot, it always made me sick.
Most vaccines consistently do a lot of good, even the flu vaccine, which can be a bit of a hit and miss sometimes. After all, they have to be made before the flu viral variants actually exist, so the likely strains have to be predicted based on patterns derived from past mutation developments.The one I really hated was the anthrax vaccine, at times we were required to start the series. When this was offered to Postal workers hardly any took the shots even though a couple of workers had been killed from anthrax in the mail. Certain vaccines have been wonder drugs Polio and Small Pox come to mind.
Actually, the antibiotic "equivalent" for viruses are antivirals. Vaccines aren't something viruses can become resistant to, since they stimulate your body's natural defenses to be prepared in case of infection to the point that, even if you are infected, your body is likely to take care of the problem with little to no disease symptoms.I think there is a lot to be said for vaccines but like antibiotics, I think they are over used.
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