Creationist "arguments" - different karyotypes

[SLP]

Many Christian beliefs go against science such as Jesus raising the dead or the parting of the Red Sea. That is why Christianity is based in faith not science.

Great.

This thread is about creationists trying to make scientific arguments against evolution and failing.

 

[SLP]

Because you are attempting to argue science with people of faith.

Not at all - I am attempting to correct the nearly universal errors creationists make when THEY attempt to prop up their religion by making erroneous arguments against evolution.

Did you read the OP at all?

 

[SLP]

It doesn't matter that it's 'just a rearrangement' no child is going to be born with a working beak.

You're a regular genius.

If I remember correctly, at one point you had claimed that you do not have a science background - is that correct?

If so, why on earth are you trying to argue scientifically (and failing)?

 

[SLP]

Hi SLP,

Thanks for your response:


I believe that we need to understand that when anyone, (creationist, atheist, scientist, biologist) tries to use scientific methodology to explain anything that God has done...it fails.

Agreed - except that I don't think God has done anything.

Here is just a shortlist of the things that God has claimed to have done in His word that, as far as I'm aware, science has not been able to prove:

Flooding the entire earth.
Turning a river, and all ground water of an entire city/nation to blood.
Causing both fire and ice to rain down from the sky at the same time.
Causing a shadow to go backwards.
Parting a sea to cause a wall of water to stand on both sides of a chasm.
Causing a woman, never having sexual relations, to be pregnant.
Raising a dead man from the grave.

I agree that science has not proved that God has done those things. Quite the contrary, science has, when used to look into any of those things, found no evidence at all that they even occurred (as depicted in the ancient tales). And when they did, the evidence is that the bible stories are not accurate.

I won't take offense, because I've been in these discussions a lot and I know how people are prone to use the fallacy of 'education' to counter such claims as are being made on this thread, but...

It was not meant to be offensive - it was an acknowledgement of your implied position.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Except Adam only live to be 930 years old and was created on day 6. Really doesn't fit, does it?

Yes, you are correct. Your preferred religious creation story does indeed not fit with what we observe happening.

 

[SLP]

That's because we already like who we are and what we believe.

Good for you.
Nothing of merit or relevance to post re: the OP and bad creationist arguments?

 

[SLP]

The Bible says that sin caused death. So no death before sin. (animal and human)It says that Eve is the mother of all the living and that we all inherited original sin from Adam. Those are the firm facts the Bible lays out. It says God made man on day 6, breathed into his nostrils and he became a living being. He wasn't stupid or an ape-man, he was a man who could talk and reason.

I am in awe that an adult human will admit to accepting - without question - such things as being true in the year 2019.

 

[SLP]

actually its a fusion of 2 ancectral human chromosomes. so this is evidence for common descent of human with...human.

Wow, your anti-genius shines brightly, as is so often the case.

Funny that your brethren still use the chromosome thing as an anti-evolution argument, while here you are supporting it, and probably not understanding how.

 

[SLP]

I love it when it always comes down to a threat in the end. Stay classy.

When the argument is lost, the loser resorts to threats of damnation.

 

[expos4ever]

We all resist being found to be in the wrong, and many of us will refuse to accept it.

This is normal human behaviour, even if counterproductive.

The fundamentalist, however, often succumbs to the lure of a sinister narrative wherein non-believers are deceived servants of evil who participate in vast conspiracies to undermine truth.

A seductive, appealing “out” when one’s position on some issue has been demonstrated as untenable.

And decidedly not “normal”.

 

[tampasteve]

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