But saying that HEBREWS 4:3-4 is not talking about God's SABBATH REST is true.Saying that HEBREWS 4:3-4 is not talking about God's SABBATH REST has no truth in it whatsoever. We have already established from the scriptures you are quoting from it is discussing;
This is the reason it is true. There is no mention of the sabbath in either of those verses. Ever wonder why? The sabbath is not God's rest. Those who kept the sabbath were told they would never enter God's rest. Jesus offered Himself as this rest to sabbath keeping Jews. Why? It is because they had no rest. They periodically ceased and returned to physical labor. The sabbath is about physical rest and a shadow law reflecting Jesus, who gives this rest which only comes through Him. Jesus extends this invitation Mat 11:28-30.1. v3 GOD'S REST from the FOUNDATION of the WORLD
2. v4 For he spoke in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
So what? This is still not the sabbath.Both scriptures you are quoting from is a direct reference from GENESIS 2:1-3..
GENESIS 2:1-3
1, Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2, And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3, And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
"Sabatismos" is a type or picture word.v9 that you leave out...
HEBREWS 4:9 [9], There remains a SABBATH REST <REST G4521 Sabatismos; a keeping of a SABBATH> to the people of God.
My Bible says - There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. There seems to be a problem with this because the Greek says leaving behind, not remains/remaineth. The verse talks about rest. The verse does not talk about a periodic physical rest. This would in keeping with Gen 2:2-3. Verse 3 does not talk about a periodic rest. It talks about a permanent ceasing. That is what God did He stopped. God did not take a break. It is interesting that sabbath is defined as intermission a derivative of cease as found in Gen 2. Both words mean distinct different things. It matters not if they are related words.
My famous NOPE!!!! applies here as demonstrated above.Yep God's WORD is very clear it is talking about God's SABBATH rest
Beg your pardon. I am in complete agreement with God's Word. Offer all your opinion you want.Seems God's WORD disagrees with you
No because there is no discussion on your part the words found in Genesis which I provided. You relied on common understanding of common words. Those word fool some people.Not at all. You have been shown from God's WORD alone that it is talking about God's SABBATH. GENESIS 2:1-3 is the ORIGIN of God's SABBATH and 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments.
You thinking is incomplete.Let's compare the scriptures for further clarity as you still seem to be confused...
ORIGIN OF THE SABBATH; GOD'S 4TH COMMANDMENT (EXODUS 20:8-11)
GENESIS 2:1-3
1, Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2, And on the SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and he RESTED on the SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made.
3, And God blessed the SEVENTH DAY, AND MADE IT HOLY <7th DAY>: because that in it he had RESTED FROM ALL HIS WORKS THAT GOD CREATED AND MADE.
Some points to note from the scriptures...
v1-3 God completed creation in 6 days and RESTED on the SEVENTH DAY
v2 God RESTED on the SEVENTH DAY
v3 God SET APART the SEVENTH DAY and made SEVENTH DAY a HOLY DAY
v2 The SEVENTH DAY is part of the FINISHED WORK of the CREATION WEEK
No it does not because of a big word "wherefore." Your verse does not say the sabbath was created in Gen 2. It says wherefore meaning because opposed to "is."links to...
EXODUS 20:8-11
[8], Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day; GENESIS 2:3)
[9], Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
[10], But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY ? KEY v 11>
[11], For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, AND RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, AND MADE IT HOLY. <DIRECT QUOTE FROM GENESIS 2:1-3>
Yep God's WORD is very clear and it is talking about God's SABBATH rest from CREATION and God's 4th Commandment
Seems God's WORD disagrees with you
What I read is your are right and I am wrong. In your definitions you highlighted what you wanted us to read as exclusive. In that list are many possibilities. From my definitions and the text I applied the proper definition. And discussed that definition and the text.Your quote above is in relation to multiple word definitions of REST and SABBATH I have written about from HEBREWS 4:9 as well as the GREEK WORDS for SABBATH and REST Sabbatismos and Sabbaton following their ORIGIN to the HEBREW root words for SABBATH and REST from Genesis 2:1-3 and Exodus 20:8-11.
The word rested in Ex 20:11 is not the same word used in Gen 2. The word still does not imply periodic rest.Out of all these different GREEK and HEBREW words and the scriptures associated to them you reference Shabbath and Shabath as the noun and verb meaning for reference of Genesis 2:1-3 and Exodus 20:8-11 use of REST and SABBATH. This was never the purpose for sharing these word meanings.
It is interesting to me that the word shabath is not translated as to repose. It is however translated several times to cease.The purpose for sharing these words was to show that the ORIGIN of God's 4th Commandment (like the scripture posts in the above section of this post all these word meaning have their ORIGIN from GENESIS 2:1-3 AND THE HEBREW ROOT WORD IN REST (H7673) which is SHABATH (verb) which means; to repose, i.e. to cease from exertion.{used in many implied relations (causative, figurative or specific)}[a primitive root]KJV: (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, KEEP SABBATH, suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away.
On the other hand the HEBREW WORD for Sabbath in EXODUS 20:8-11 means the interval (noun) between SHABATH (interval of REST) or from one SABBATH to another (EVERY SEVENTH DAY)
You are trying to make a strawman argument from something I have never said. Your argument does not change the fact that the reference from GENESIS 2:1-3 connects directly to God's 4th COMMANDMENT from EXODUS 20:8-11 as shown above here and in the previous section of scripture in this post.
Not only do the scripture ORIGINS trace back to GENESIS 2:1-3 and the creation week for God's 4th Commandment Sabbath so do the GREEK and HEBREW word meanings show the ORIGIN of SABBATH is the REST found in GENESIS 2.
God's WORD once again disagrees with you.
No it doesn't. Your only part quoting the HEBREW word meaning of H7673 which is; STRONGS HEBREW DICTIONARY; REST (H7673) which is SHABATH (verb) which means; to repose, i.e. to cease from exertion.{used in many implied relations (causative, figurative or specific)}[a primitive root]KJV: (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, KEEP SABBATH, suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away.
Again there is a conjunction word because showing reason. This is not showing the same. There are reasons words like seventh and sabbath appear in Scripture. They are not the same thing. Again I go back to the words wherefore and because which show reason. This would be like explaining gravity. Example the apple became detached from the tree, therefore it falls to the ground. Deut 5 uses the word therefore.GENESIS 2:1-3
1, Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2, And on the SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and he RESTED on the SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made.
3, And God blessed the SEVENTH DAY, AND MADE IT HOLY <7th DAY>: because that in it he had RESTED FROM ALL HIS WORKS THAT GOD CREATED AND MADE.
God ceased from the WORK he made at creation. God SET ASIDE AND BLESSED the SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK making EVERY SEVENTH DAY a HOLY DAY that no WORK is to be carried out. This is the ORIGIN of God's 4th COMMANDMENT * EXODUS 20:8-11. It is the SEVENTH DAY not everyday that God SET APART, BLESSED and MADE HOLY. Hence the Hebrew word in EXODUS 20:8-11 for SABBATH is SHABATH (H7676) the interval of rest every SEVENTH DAY.
The sabbath was given exclusively to Israel as a sign of the covenant making it special. If everyone kept it it would not be special. Ex 31:13, 17Once again seems God's WORD disagrees with you my friend.
Hope this helps..
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