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Conservatives are just pointing out all the weirdness instead of pretending it's not bizarre.I just love how my one time mention of "cis gendered" has completely derailed the thread and has every conservative talking about transgenders, drag queen story hour in libraries and legal homosexuality leading to sex with dogs and children. It seems to me like some conservatives care for nothing but other people's genitals and what they do with them.
You obviously don't know much about it outside of the standard generic spiel and what you're making up as you go along.Yeah, the ones attributed to one's gender identity. Which, as I said, is part of one's personality, but not the whole of it.
I've done that, and I did not describe any specific traits. To repeat:
Gender is a product of identity. It's the way an individual expresses the traits, roles and/or mannerisms associated with male or female expression within their society or culture. It is part of their personality, sure, but there are many parts of one's personality that are independent of gender, so it's not the whole of it.
Is that clear, or do you still have difficulty understanding it?
What "official" body are you citing here? Since identity is a very personal and individual thing, it can be expressed any number of ways, and does not have to conform to any "official" designation or definition. If someone wants to use one of those terms, they can...but they don't have to. There is nothing official or required about any of those words.
If you want to call your gender identity "Clyde," you're free to do so.
I personally view gender identity as a spectrum rather than specifically delineated, rigidly defined categories, so as far as I'm concerned, there are as many gender identities as there are individuals. And I don't feel the need to name any of them.
Most individuals have names already, so they don't need me to do that for them anyway.
What, exactly, is "baloney" about that?
-- A2SG, if anyone's purporting themselves to be the "official" designator for gender identity, I'd check their paperwork first....especially if they're asking for a fee to register yours....
What "standard generic spiel" are you referring to? I never gave one.You obviously don't know much about it outside of the standard generic spiel and what you're making up as you go along.
No you don't get it per usual. You were describing personality traits.
Misunderstanding what? Try explaining it in a way that isn't just a description of various personality traits. According to the official claptrap all the genders have a designated name such as agender, abigender, bigender, cisgender, demigender, genderfluid, genderflux, intergender, multigender, neurogender, omnigender, pangender, transgender, xgender etc etc for a total of around 75 genders as a conservative number. But it can go up to around 122 iirc. Chew on that for a while
Conservatives are going off-topic at the slightest provocation concerning gender issues, is what they do.Conservatives are just pointing out all the weirdness instead of pretending it's not bizarre.
You're talking about a person's sex. Their biology. What genitalia they have.I'm a woman. Sigh.
There used to be men too.
The rest is nonsense unless they have a medical issue but then they wouldn't identify as the medical issue, they'd fix said medical issue and either be male or female.
I don't want to treat someone according to their sex life, I just want to have whatever interaction with the person in front of me.
Deciding we should identify ourselves in accordance to proclivities something has in the bedroom is nonsense. That's not who someone is.
Gender identity is something different. It's part of one's identity, not their biology
Yes, it is. It's in how you see yourself as a woman, and how you act and present yourself to the world as a woman. It's not all of your personality, but it is a part of it.It's not part of my identity.
This is why the distinction is made between the words "gender" and "sex." Gender refers to your identity, sex refers to your biology. In short, you express your gender in the way you dress and act. Your sex is your genitalia and biology.I don't, honestly don't understand this. Your biological gender is a physical reality...
But your body doesn't determine if you will like frilly dresses or work boots, or if you play with barbie dolls or Tonka trucks.Beyond that it's not much. The body your born in might determine whether being a mother is an option for you but if the body your born says nope, your not gonna be a mother then .. you know. There's a limit on that option.
Or...medical professionals have come to realize that some people cannot function, or even simply feel comfortable in the body they were born with, and have found medical ways to help them.To my ears a lot of very greedy medical professionals have brainwashed a generation into believing the immutable things about themselves aren't immutable at all in order to take advantage of people and get rich off of sex change operations and mental health treatment.
That's what this is.
Yea, like when one of your leading Christian conservatives came on TV and showed us enlarged pictures of Hunter Biden naked and having sex with a prostitute while the Freedom Caucus drooled. But I bet that was a lot more fun than merely having fantasies about drag queens having sex with animals and stuff like that.Conservatives are just pointing out all the weirdness instead of pretending it's not bizarre.
But your body doesn't determine if you will like frilly dresses or work boots, or if you play with barbie dolls or Tonka trucks.
Because in some cases it has been found more useful to the patient to change the body rather than expect the mind to come to terms with it,.It never has!
Why should that change except to enrich quacks and butchers!!?!
Not necessary, but convenient. The word has utility. And it is not a slur.Not necessary when discussing people if you just use the word transgender everyone knows who you are talking about. Everyone else is not transgender.
Gosh, thank you for your permission.And feel free to use use whatever term you want. It's a free country.
Yea, like when one of your leading Christian conservatives came on TV and showed us enlarged pictures of Hunter Biden naked and having sex with a prostitute while the Freedom Caucus drooled. But I bet that was a lot more fun than merely having fantasies about drag queens having sex with animals and stuff like that.
Then what did you mean by this:It's not part of my identity.
You literally identified yourself as a woman. If you are not transgendered - and it is more than clear you are not - then....I'm a woman. Sigh.
Because in some cases it has been found more useful to the patient to change the body rather than expect the mind to come to terms with it,.
No, nobody is doing that, that is just a lurid fantasy that the Christian Right likes to wallow in.You're taking the rarest of mental health exceptions, we are talking really rare exceptions, taken those exceptions into the public sphere and are wanting to tell little kids in kindergarten - not that they can have any career they choose when they grow up and encourage thinking towards adulthood nooo... They want to teach them they can be any gender?
Really? No... Just no.
That's stupid quackery... And far more dangerous to kids than snake oil.
You'd have to ask someone who feels they need those changes.It never has!
Why should that change except to enrich quacks and butchers!!?!
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