Oakland stuck in a ‘doom loop’ as residents flee and crime rises

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“Oakland residents are sick and tired of our intolerable public safety crisis that overwhelmingly impacts minority communities,” Cynthia Adams, president of the Oakland branch of the NAACP, and Bishop Bob Jackson, senior pastor at Acts Full Gospel Church, wrote in a joint statement.
“Murders, shootings, violent armed robberies, home invasions, car break-ins, sideshows, and highway shootouts have become a pervasive fixture of life in Oakland,” they continued. “We call on all elected leaders to unite and declare a state of emergency and bring together massive resources to address our public safety crisis.”
The problem is that those who advocated woke policies always blame the resulting problems on others rather than admit their far left policies have failed.
The people have to consider, at least consider, not automatically voting for progressive Democrats.
 
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The problem is that those who advocated woke policies always blame the resulting problems on others rather than admit their far left policies have failed.
One has to wonder why those alleged people aren't actually quoted. Perhaps what is actually said would get in the way of far right propaganda about the subject?
 
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“Oakland residents are sick and tired of our intolerable public safety crisis that overwhelmingly impacts minority communities,” Cynthia Adams, president of the Oakland branch of the NAACP, and Bishop Bob Jackson, senior pastor at Acts Full Gospel Church, wrote in a joint statement.
“Murders, shootings, violent armed robberies, home invasions, car break-ins, sideshows, and highway shootouts have become a pervasive fixture of life in Oakland,” they continued. “We call on all elected leaders to unite and declare a state of emergency and bring together massive resources to address our public safety crisis.”
The problem is that those who advocated woke policies always blame the resulting problems on others rather than admit their far left policies have failed.
The people have to consider, at least consider, not automatically voting for progressive Democrats.
Here is a counter article with actual facts.
 
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These threads paint republicans in a very unflattering light. Democrat policies fail over and over yet the republicans cannot make inroads with the voters?
 
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“Oakland residents are sick and tired of our intolerable public safety crisis that overwhelmingly impacts minority communities,” Cynthia Adams, president of the Oakland branch of the NAACP, and Bishop Bob Jackson, senior pastor at Acts Full Gospel Church, wrote in a joint statement.
“Murders, shootings, violent armed robberies, home invasions, car break-ins, sideshows, and highway shootouts have become a pervasive fixture of life in Oakland,” they continued. “We call on all elected leaders to unite and declare a state of emergency and bring together massive resources to address our public safety crisis.”
The problem is that those who advocated woke policies always blame the resulting problems on others rather than admit their far left policies have failed.
The people have to consider, at least consider, not automatically voting for progressive Democrats.
Why is much of the deep south just as poor and destitute, if not worse, than Oakland? Is it all of the woke Republicans running things down there?
 
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The people have to consider, at least consider, not automatically voting for progressive Democrats.
R's these days come with waaay too much absurd ideological baggage. Some sensible R's with their heads screwed on are making inroads in D areas. But these are not the ones who breathe from the Trump nitrous tank.

Meanwhile many urban D's have been giving back various powers to police that were curtailed post George Floyd. This is a mixed bag of course, because its not certain that police culture has matured enough to responsibly handle these powers.
 
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R's these days come with waaay too much absurd ideological baggage. Some sensible R's with their heads screwed on are making inroads in D areas. But these are not the ones who breathe from the Trump nitrous tank.

Meanwhile many urban D's have been giving back various powers to police that were curtailed post George Floyd. This is a mixed bag of course, because its not certain that police culture has matured enough to responsibly handle these powers.
Did you ever consider signing up and showing police how a mature person can do the job? The police are locals, mostly Democrats and union members in Democratic ruled cities.
 
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Did you ever consider signing up and showing police how a mature person can do the job? The police are locals, mostly Democrats and union members in Democratic ruled cities.
Do republicans “rule” when in office or is that pejorative only applicable to dems?
 
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Did you ever consider signing up and showing police how a mature person can do the job?
I already have a different job.

Have you ever considered leaving a job youre good at and have decades of experience in to start some new profession you have no interest in?
 
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R's these days come with waaay too much absurd ideological baggage. Some sensible R's with their heads screwed on are making inroads in D areas. But these are not the ones who breathe from the Trump nitrous tank.

Meanwhile many urban D's have been giving back various powers to police that were curtailed post George Floyd. This is a mixed bag of course, because its not certain that police culture has matured enough to responsibly handle these powers.
Here in Baltimore, a Dem stronghold where the primary is, essentially, the election, the only people put forward by Republicans are clowns. The most recent one who gained any publicity was Kim Klacik, a former stripper pushed by right-wing media, who got trounced and copped to having been sort-of-scammed by expensive Republican consultants who gobbled up all of her campaign funds.

The last not-crazy one I can remember was a guy running for mayor maybe 7-8 years ago who was a retired local news anchor. He wasn't remotely qualified, but he struck me as not an unreasonable person.
 
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“Oakland residents are sick and tired of our intolerable public safety crisis that overwhelmingly impacts minority communities,” Cynthia Adams, president of the Oakland branch of the NAACP, and Bishop Bob Jackson, senior pastor at Acts Full Gospel Church, wrote in a joint statement.
“Murders, shootings, violent armed robberies, home invasions, car break-ins, sideshows, and highway shootouts have become a pervasive fixture of life in Oakland,” they continued. “We call on all elected leaders to unite and declare a state of emergency and bring together massive resources to address our public safety crisis.”
The problem is that those who advocated woke policies always blame the resulting problems on others rather than admit their far left policies have failed.
The people have to consider, at least consider, not automatically voting for progressive Democrats.
Funnily enough Oakland is a modern ghost town where the sizable infrastructure is no longer supported by the industry that was outsourced to overseas. This coupled with decades of police corruption, administrative corruption, homelessness due to the outsourced job and of course the perennial American problems with guns and drugs means it's going to be yet another American Hell Hole.

So a sad place for all. One has to wonder what point you are making here? American society bad?
 
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Here in Baltimore, a Dem stronghold where the primary is, essentially, the election, the only people put forward by Republicans are clowns. The most recent one who gained any publicity was Kim Klacik, a former stripper pushed by right-wing media, who got trounced and copped to having been sort-of-scammed by expensive Republican consultants who gobbled up all of her campaign funds.

The last not-crazy one I can remember was a guy running for mayor maybe 7-8 years ago who was a retired local news anchor. He wasn't remotely qualified, but he struck me as not an unreasonable person.
Yes, I live in a Democratic stronghold area. There was a Republican elected to our Congressional district back in the 1940s, that was the last time and I don't know the circumstances of how that happened. Good luck to the independents and other political parties. My home town in this district has been working hard on the subjects of reparations and paying off medical bills of those who have fallen into debt. Right across the river that city passed a resolution for a cease fire in Gaza.
 
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Funnily enough Oakland is a modern ghost town where the sizable infrastructure is no longer supported by the industry that was outsourced to overseas. This coupled with decades of police corruption, administrative corruption, homelessness due to the outsourced job and of course the perennial American problems with guns and drugs means it's going to be yet another American Hell Hole.
I was born in Oakland and my son and his family still live there. You have it about right.
So a sad place for all. One has to wonder what point you are making here? American society bad?
The only conclusion seems to be that neither Democrats nor Republicans can govern competently. What do Republicans plan to do about it? Show us more nude pictures of Hunter Biden?
 
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Yes, I live in a Democratic stronghold area. ... My home town in this district has been working hard on the subjects of ... paying off medical bills of those who have fallen into debt.
Most places should be so fortunate.
 
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Here in Baltimore, a Dem stronghold where the primary is, essentially, the election, the only people put forward by Republicans are clowns. The most recent one who gained any publicity was Kim Klacik, a former stripper pushed by right-wing media, who got trounced and copped to having been sort-of-scammed by expensive Republican consultants who gobbled up all of her campaign funds.

The last not-crazy one I can remember was a guy running for mayor maybe 7-8 years ago who was a retired local news anchor. He wasn't remotely qualified, but he struck me as not an unreasonable person.
Yeah R's.... give us some options who arent ridiculous. The pres primaries began with a few of those, your basic conservative centrists. But the party of Trump rejected them real fast.
 
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“Oakland residents are sick and tired of our intolerable public safety crisis that overwhelmingly impacts minority communities,” Cynthia Adams, president of the Oakland branch of the NAACP, and Bishop Bob Jackson, senior pastor at Acts Full Gospel Church, wrote in a joint statement.
“Murders, shootings, violent armed robberies, home invasions, car break-ins, sideshows, and highway shootouts have become a pervasive fixture of life in Oakland,” they continued. “We call on all elected leaders to unite and declare a state of emergency and bring together massive resources to address our public safety crisis.”
The problem is that those who advocated woke policies always blame the resulting problems on others rather than admit their far left policies have failed.
The people have to consider, at least consider, not automatically voting for progressive Democrats.
I'll let you know before probinson does.

Crime statistics in certain areas have far more contributing factors than only the "political leanings" of those who wield control. So all conversations around policy, should be couched with that understanding.
 
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“Oakland residents are sick and tired of our intolerable public safety crisis that overwhelmingly impacts minority communities,” Cynthia Adams, president of the Oakland branch of the NAACP, and Bishop Bob Jackson, senior pastor at Acts Full Gospel Church, wrote in a joint statement.
“Murders, shootings, violent armed robberies, home invasions, car break-ins, sideshows, and highway shootouts have become a pervasive fixture of life in Oakland,” they continued. “We call on all elected leaders to unite and declare a state of emergency and bring together massive resources to address our public safety crisis.”
The problem is that those who advocated woke policies always blame the resulting problems on others rather than admit their far left policies have failed.
The people have to consider, at least consider, not automatically voting for progressive Democrats.
Homelessness has always been an issue ... however with allowing the influx of mass migration into our country by the current administration our system has become severely overwhelmed all at once and therefore destabilizing our entire country in many many ways ... creating extreme chaos. Yes, the policies have failed.
 
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