NY Filing Hints at Fraud by Donald and his Company

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D.A. Is Investigating Trump and His Company Over Fraud, Filing Suggests

NYT said:
The Manhattan district attorney’s office suggested on Monday that it has been investigating President Trump and his company for possible bank and insurance fraud, a significantly broader inquiry than the prosecutors have acknowledged in the past.

The suggestion by the office of the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., came in a new federal court filing arguing that Mr. Trump’s accountants should have to comply with a subpoena seeking eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns. Mr. Trump had asked a judge to declare the subpoena invalid.

Uh-oh! Cyrus Vance is out for blood.
 

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Blood is hard to get out of money, but there are ways to launder it, I hear.
His attorney Michael Cohen said Trump kept two sets of accounting statements.
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His attorney Michael Cohen said Trump kept two sets of accounting statements. It was like one understated his income to avoid taxes and the other overstated his income in order to get loans.

This is tax fraud and bank fraud. Both are illegal. Am not sure how he might have defrauded the insurance company(ies).
If he over stated the values of his properties, that's fraud.
 
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If he over stated the values of his properties, that's fraud.
Witch-hunt! Hoax! Fake prosecutor! Liberal News! Clean Laundry! Epstein and Barr!
 
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This is tax fraud and bank fraud. Both are illegal.
Tax fraud is federal and we know AG Barr is not going to investigate that nor would Mnuchin.
 
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His attorney Michael Cohen said Trump kept two sets of accounting statements. It was like one understated his income to avoid taxes and the other overstated his income in order to get loans.

This is tax fraud and bank fraud. Both are illegal. Am not sure how he might have defrauded the insurance company(ies).

Crooks usually do keep two sets of books.
 
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In a,state with state income taxes--as well as property taxes, capital gains taxes on property sales etc. there would be plenty of tax fraud Trump could commit.
And having seen his behavior as president I am certain he did.
No...his accomplices can't save him from this--and Trump.has no friends in NY.
Did you know Trump Tower was built in 1979 and paid ZERO property taxes until 2019.
He asked for a 40 year abatement. The city said no. He sued. The city lost.
No one misses the deadbeat-in-chief in NY.
 
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In a,state with state income taxes--as well as property taxes, capital gains taxes on property sales etc. there would be plenty of tax fraud Trump could commit.
And having seen his behavior as president I am certain he did.
No...his accomplices can't save him from this--and Trump.has no friends in NY.
Did you know Trump Tower was built in 1979 and paid ZERO property taxes until 2019.
He asked for a 40 year abatement. The city said no. He sued. The city lost.
No one misses the deadbeat-in-chief in NY.

As Sam Harris said of Trump years ago, he fits an uninformed American's stereotype of a rich man.
 
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As Sam Harris said of Trump years ago, he fits an uneducated person's stereotype of a rich man. On closer scrutiny, once you care to peek under the surface, you see somebody that's dishonest, has mostly acquired his wealth through inheritance and built business empire on sleazy practices, and doesn't have any real friends.
Yes, this four year, live-action mashup of “Caddy Shack and Citizen Kane”, while entertaining as all get-out, has an odd foreboding attached.
 
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Yes, this four year, live-action mashup of “Caddy Shack and Citizen Kane”, while entertaining as all get-out, has an odd foreboding attached.

Citizen Kane really does capture something about what makes people like that tick. They love power more than love or anything genuinely humane.
 
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Crooks usually do keep two sets of books.
I may have misinterpreted Cohen. One set of books might have been accurate for taxes, the other set inaccurate for the banks. They should check his tax records too. In any case there was a hint of crookedness. Filing false loan applications is bank fraud.
 
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As Sam Harris said of Trump years ago, he fits an uninformed American's stereotype of a rich man.

Trump appears to believe his own hype - on some level he must have an awareness that his projected image is phony, but at the same time he kind of believes in it, and that second part seems to be more dominant.
 
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