Lucian Hodoboc
I've already read the Bible
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So why isn't He indwelling me despite my numerous requests for Him to do so?
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So why isn't He indwelling me despite my numerous requests for Him to do so?His yoke is easy because, when he indwells you, he gives you the ability to do these things. Do not trust your abilities, trust his.
When two people meet and fall in love, there are choices and also inevitability.What are your thoughts on this subject.
Is following Christ Jesus Christ a choice?
Did Matthew when Jesus stated ‘follow me’ make the choice to do so? Maybe this one was predestined?
Either way, can people make the choice to follow God or completely reject him in this life? Or is it a preordained thing and only some people get to the choice to?
He is but you are not believing and listening. Your emotional feelings do not define reality, your listening and following do.So why isn't He indwelling me despite my numerous requests for Him to do so?
It’s a choice.What are your thoughts on this subject.
Is following Christ Jesus Christ a choice?
Did Matthew when Jesus stated ‘follow me’ make the choice to do so? Maybe this one was predestined?
Either way, can people make the choice to follow God or completely reject him in this life? Or is it a preordained thing and only some people get to the choice to?
That is the belief, yes. More Christians reject the idea than accept it, but that is the meaning of the word.Do this mean essentially that before someone is born God has decided whether they will go to hell or not? Rather than allowing them to freely come to Him or not.
That does not accord with a loving God by any stretch of the imagination. What God would condemn someone to hell irrespective of any choices that they make in their life? Or limit someone's choices so as to condemn someone...That is the belief, yes. More Christians reject the idea than accept it, but that is the meaning of the word.
God condemns people to hell because of the choices they make.That does not accord with a loving God by any stretch of the imagination. What God would condemn someone to hell irrespective of any choices that they make in their life? Or limit someone's choices so as to condemn someone...
Why wouldn't a loving God predestine everyone to salvation?
That's not necessarily so.That does not accord with a loving God by any stretch of the imagination.
That's not necessarily so.
If it is true that God is love, it is also true that he is just. There are no mortals who deserve eternal bliss with God, not on account of those persons' own efforts. So if God deigns to grant it to some of his creatures anyway, that's love.
Do you think God CAN grant someone entrance to heaven that isn't born of the Spirit? I mean could He possibly do so?
That's not necessarily so.
If it is true that God is love, it is also true that he is just. There are no mortals who deserve eternal bliss with God, not on account of those persons' own efforts. So if God deigns to grant it to some of his creatures anyway, that's love.
I don't really understand the position.
I have no problem with the idea that God foreknows who will and will not attain salvation.
That's foreknowledge, all right, but it doesn't do much to help us understand predestination.But this is not through it being decided by God beforehand with no influence from the individual, but rather through the free actions of the individual, who chose to accept Christ as saviour through faith and acted accordingly. In other words God knows the choices you are going to make but does not decide them for you.
Not at all! It says that God allows the person who is predestined to make the choice that saves.Predestination appears to me to say that the choices do not matter.
About choosing God or not, you mean. That's what we are dealing with, not all sorts of other of life's choices.That free will is intact but makes no difference.
I have neve decided, one way or the other, on the issue (predestination) myself. However, the idea of being given, free and clear, the greatest thing that anyone could aspire to, that which humans throughout history have hoped for...has always seemed to me to be the ultimate in love. The notion that being chosen to receive that gift makes the recipient into a robot or that the gift denies him his free will chance to go straight to hell at death seems to me like a silly view of the matter.Either that or the choices are not choices, because God decided for you that you are to be saved, and thus you have no choice but to act accordingly. Either way it seems as though God is just creating people who have no choice but to suffer eternal torment, no matter what choices they make, or he is creating people who cannot help but act in such a way as to deserve damnation, both of which are kinda sadistic.
Can you define what the will of man/God is?
Can you explain the difference?
My understanding of following Jesus is loving your neighbor, and when you love your neighbor, you love God. It's never been about sin, and refraining from it, but focusing on loving your neighbor actively.
At every moment, we choose.
I don't believe there is predestination, which implies that some are chosen, and some are not, and condemned with no free will. Rather, all are loved, are children of God, and the choice is whether you accept that, choose to accept God's love, and allow him to heal and change you through divine love.
I believe one reason some people prefer pre-d is that it implies that God chooses only some people, because he only loves some people, not all, so the believer can pick and choose whom they love as well. ("Don't even the pagans do that?"(")
When the Lord delivered me the Holy Spirit said, “never forget you chose.” It was an important reminder that God didn’t twist my arm or force me to follow Him. I did so of my own volition.
Yours in His Service,
~bella
Good Day, Bella
Your choosing was a direct result of the work of the Lord in delivering you (cause and effect)... he was the cause of your choice, and you for filled his purpose for you. He knew exactly what he need to do to get what He intended for you to His own glory.
Hi Bill,
Actually, that isn’t correct. I was a believer before my deliverance. I returned to God in a Jewish synagogue. The message was given to me for other reasons.
Yours in His Service,
~bella
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