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Or maybe in light of your four deliberate misrepresentations of Scripture in post #534, I don't trust your presentations of Scripture.
"Consummation in Rev 5:13" is according to your personal interpretation of prophecy, and prophecy is subject to more than one interpretation.
I see it quite differently, and more in context.
Since the context of Isa 45:23 is the deliverance and restoration of Israel after the Babylonian exile, I see the meaning of 45:23 to be in
the prophecy of 45:14, where the nations of Egypt, Cush, Seba will come over, bow down and acknowledge Israel's God.
And it has nothing to do with "allegiance," which you inserted into the texts, neither in Isa 45:23, 14 nor Ro 14:11. . .just more sloppy handling of Scripture, as in post #534.
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Beautiful passage that one, leading up to 1 Cor 15:28, where Jesus finally gives the whole of creation that has submitted to him, to the Father:
When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
That would be the ta panta, the radical all - all things in heaven, in the sea, on the earth and under the earth, as created in those 6 days of genesis. From Him, through Him and to Him are all things. And then the sabbath of sabbaths, the jubilee of jubilees. All the myriad 7s in the Book of Revelation.
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