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Now that I put my faith in display to my coworker things are even more difficult and uncomfortable

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Also, please don't let your guard down. Please continue to be civil, professional, and gracious, but not overly friendly. It does seem like God has worked things out very well for you, in giving her a chance to reflect on her behavior and giving you a chance to hold up that mirror, but please also keep in mind that you are still dealing with an emotionally and psychologically unstable woman who is unsaved, and easily used by Satan. Satan does not let his guard down, and neither should you. Praying.
 
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we are back in the office today and it looks like everything has worked out for the better. Things with my Co worker and our boss are still interesting but it seems I have been set free spiritually. I prayed and prayed and prayed then all of a sudden I lost my lustful attraction to her, and through a series of really odd occurrences I got introduced to a nice woman my age, and may actually be able to have a platonic friendship with my Co worker and who knows she may even straighten her self out and being putting her amazing gifts to good use.

LET'S GO MICHAEL, LET'S GOOOO~ :blink:

I'm proud of you brother.

I prayed and prayed and prayed then. . . [everything straightened out]

Fellow Christians please take note.
 
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we are back in the office today and it looks like everything has worked out for the better.

I prayed and prayed and prayed then all of a sudden I lost my lustful attraction to her,...

She got hit really hard so I had to clean her wound really carefully wound really carefully and slowly, I spent the better half of an hour just inches from her face cleaning her up. Part way through that I realized I was no longer infatuated with her.
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Great news about your "deliverance" or being saved from a precarious situation = God's blessings on you for trusting/believing in God/Jesus and obeying His Word/Law.

Could be God's Spirit coming to your aid to stop your lustful attraction.
....... If so, it should not become a habit when dealing with lust, hate, greed, jealousy, fears/worries, etc in our hearts, ie we should only ask for God's help when we could not help ourselves, eg we should work to feed ourselves.

Because of our inherited or inborn Adam's Original Sin, the devil is able to spiritually plant sinful/evil-thoughts in our minds, eg lust, hate, greed, jealousy, fears/worries, etc.(EPHESIANS.6:16-17, MATTHEW.4:1-11) If put into action, they become sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking = will be cursed/punished by God or His agents(= police, etc), eg terror, calamities, sickness, physical death, etc.(DEUT.28:15, PROV.1:26, 1COR.5:5 & 11:30, 1JOHN.5:16)
....... First, Christians should resist the devil's evil-thoughts with the Law/Word of God, eg "Thou shalt not commit adultery/sexual immorality". Then they should meditate away(let the evil-thoughts come and go by themselves) or ignore the sinful/evil-thoughts, like ignoring Internet trolls or other ways.

Praise the Lord, our God.
 
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Could be God's Spirit coming to your aid to stop your lustful attraction.
....... If so, it should not become a habit when dealing with lust, hate, greed, jealousy, fears/worries, etc in our hearts, ie we should only ask for God's help when we could not help ourselves, eg we should work to feed ourselves.

Because of our inherited or inborn Adam's Original Sin, the devil is able to spiritually plant sinful/evil-thoughts in our minds, eg lust, hate, greed, jealousy, fears/worries, etc.(EPHESIANS.6:16-17, MATTHEW.4:1-11) If put into action, they become sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking = will be cursed/punished by God or His agents(= police, etc), eg terror, calamities, sickness, physical death, etc.(DEUT.28:15, PROV.1:26, 1COR.5:5 & 11:30, 1JOHN.5:16)
....... First, Christians should resist the devil's evil-thoughts with the Law/Word of God, eg "Thou shalt not commit adultery/sexual immorality". Then they should meditate away(let the evil-thoughts come and go by themselves) or ignore the sinful/evil-thoughts, like ignoring Internet trolls or other ways.

Praise the Lord, our God.

Could be God's Spirit coming to your aid to stop your lustful attraction.
....... If so, it should not become a habit when dealing with lust, hate, greed, jealousy, fears/worries, etc in our hearts, ie we should only ask for God's help when we could not help ourselves, eg we should work to feed ourselves.

Could you please explain to me what "should not become a habit" when dealing with sin and temptation? Praying and asking for help from God should not become a habit?

Could you please also explain what you are trying to say with "ie we should only ask for God's help when we could not help ourselves, eg we should work to feed ourselves"? What do you base this on, where do we find anything close to this in the word of God? Helping ourselves with what, our own power?

What does "could not help oneself" even mean, who decides when you come to that point, your own wisdom? Why should we "only ask God for help" when "we could not help ourselves" when the Holy Bible is full of God calling His children to always pray and ask without ceasing, and have communion with His Holy Spirit at all times? What kind of advice or teaching is this?

Because of our inherited or inborn Adam's Original Sin, the devil is able to spiritually plant sinful/evil-thoughts in our minds, eg lust, hate, greed, jealousy, fears/worries, etc.(EPHESIANS.6:16-17, MATTHEW.4:1-11) If put into action, they become sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking = will be cursed/punished by God or His agents(= police, etc), eg terror, calamities, sickness, physical death, etc.(DEUT.28:15, PROV.1:26, 1COR.5:5 & 11:30, 1JOHN.5:16)

Not only do I not understand how this has anything to do with the thread, but I don't understand why you are pulling up some verses without context and claim God is going around cursing people when they sin and terrorizing people giving them sickness and death.

First, Christians should resist the devil's evil-thoughts with the Law/Word of God, eg "Thou shalt not commit adultery/sexual immorality". Then they should meditate away(let the evil-thoughts come and go by themselves) or ignore the sinful/evil-thoughts, like ignoring Internet trolls or other ways.

Can you please explain what do you mean by "resisting evil thoughts with the Law" mean? Can you please explain why we are to "meditate away evil thoughts" and what does "meditate away evil thoughts" mean? "Let evil thoughts come and go" without prayer? Let them "come and go" without putting up a fight?

James 4:7-8
"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. ..."

1Thessalonians 5:17-18
"Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you."

Luke 18:1

"Then He spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart,"

Luke 21:36
"But watch at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that will take place, and to stand before the Son of man."

Ephesians 6:18
"Pray at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints,"

Colossians 4:2
"Continue steadfastly in prayer, being watchful in it with thanksgiving;"

Luke 22:46
Then He said to them, “Why do you sleep? Rise and pray, lest you enter into temptation.

Mark 14:38
Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.










 
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It turns out she got board at dinner so she decided to pan handle "just for fun". She went out to the truck and got her saxophone and made herself a cardboard sign that said "Boyfriend beat me up, need $$ to get back to Louisiana ".
= she hates men(misandry), even though she likes to have wild and wanton sex with attractive men.
 
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"Thou shalt not commit adultery/sexual immorality"

Oh I'm glad you are quoting of the Holy Bible. Could you please also remind me what the Holy Bible says about those that have premarital sex, lusting, abusing one's flesh, masturbation and those that teach, promote and encourage sin to others?

discipler7 said:
"Pre-marital sex between a young and committed Christian couple, eg 18 years old, who will eventually get legally/officially married, is likely not a sin/evil-deed."

discipler7 said:
MichaelDB said:
That premarital sex with a committed partner is OK?
Likely, yes or it's OK.

discipler7 said:
She was deceived by the false precept of no sex before marriage and you suffered for it.?

discipler7 said:
"It would be a burden to require an 18 years old committed couple to wait about 7 years before they could have sex by getting legally married."

discipler7 said:
"It is normal for us to have fleshly lustful thoughts."

discipler7 said:
"sex should be within marriage.(either officially or unofficially.?)....... Also, such lustful thought will not condemn us to hell as long as we believe that Jesus Christ died for us on the Cross."

discipler7 said:
Some Christians also consider safe-sex-before-marriage between a young and committed Christian couple as not a sin/evil-deed, ala masturbation by singles is not a sin.

discipler7 said:
MichaelDB said:
I can't stop my unhealthy thoughts about her.

I hate myself for finding every little thing she did that night arousing. I just kept praying in my head to keep control of my own flesh.
Get married quickly to a Baptist girl.? Ask her(= your co-worker) to marry you.? Change job.? Hope she be merciful to you after you again reject her sexual advances.?

Submit to her.? Eg some Christians do not consider masturbation by singles as a sin/evil-deed.

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P S - Sex is over-rated. It's not very different from wanting to eat a tasty steak, eating it and feeling sated afterwards.

Fornication is not different from eating a tasty steak huh? He should submit to attempts of fornication because "some Christians" consider masturbating to "not be a sin", huh?

What kind of advice is this? Whose teachings are these?
Whose voice is this? Because this is not of Christ.

discipler7 said:
Praise the Lord, our God.

Could you please do me a favor as I ask you in the name of the Living God, Jesus Christ who has come in the flesh, and tell me who your "Lord and God" is in clear writing?
 
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= she hates men(misandry), even though she likes to have wild and wanton sex with attractive men.

???
How do you deduce hatred of men, misandry here?

even though she likes to have wild and wanton sex with attractive men.

What? How can you assume and claim such things? What does this have to do with anything?
 
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Could you please also explain what you are trying to say with "ie we should only ask for God's help when we could not help ourselves, eg we should work to feed ourselves"? What do you base this on, where do we find anything close to this in the word of God? Helping ourselves with what, our own power?
2THESSALONIANS.3: = 10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. 12 Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
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It would be unscriptural for the able-bodied Christians to pray to God to feed them.
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Why should we "only ask God for help" when "we could not help ourselves" when the Holy Bible is full of God calling His children to always pray and ask without ceasing, and have communion with His Holy Spirit at all times? What kind of advice or teaching is this?
1JOHN.5: = 14 Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15 And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.

MATTHEW.6: =
8 “Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 9 In this manner, therefore, pray:

Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
10 Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.
13 And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _

Is what we are asking God according to His will.?
 
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2THESSALONIANS.3: = 10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. 12 Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
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It would be unscriptural for the able-bodied Christians to pray to God to feed them.
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1JOHN.5: = 14 Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15 And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.

MATTHEW.6: =
8 “Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 9 In this manner, therefore, pray:

Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
10 Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.
13 And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _

Is what we are asking God according to His will.?

"It would be unscriptural for the able-bodied Christians to pray to God to feed them."

And then right after that you quote the prayer that Lord Jesus Himself taught, which we pray everyday:

"GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD"

It's "unscriptural" for Christians to pray and ask help for something that think they can do? How can you make such a claim when the Holy Bible is FULL of God Himself encouraging His people to pray for everything and all that they can, constantly and without ceasing?

Matthew 6:25-26
“Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?

Matthew 6:31-33
“Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

"It's unscriptural for able-bodied Christians to pray to God to feed them." ???

What St. Paul is talking about in 2 Thessalonians is not "only pray for things that you believe you can't physically do" at all. You are pulling verses out of context, trying to bend them as if they support what you claim; but it is not the case and this isn't the first time you are doing this.

Is what we are asking God according to His will.?

Sure, that's a question a Christian can and should ask themselves. But how does that even mean "we should only ask God for help when "we could not help ourselves"? Is there ever such a commandment as "to sit down and make sure what you pray is exactly as God plans and sees it, you are required to know all this"?

Or is it "All things work together for good to them that love God"?

What are you trying to teach; what is your purpose here?

You are pulling verses out of context, promoting masturbation, lust, premarital sex, encouraging fornication, claiming you shouldn't pray unless you feel like you "can not help yourself", shouldn't make a habit of praying, claiming a Christian should deal with evil, sin and lustful thoughts by their own power, likening the sin of fornication to eating tasty food and saying it is no different, saying "let evil thoughts come and go", promoting adultery and sexual immorality in one post then saying "Christians should resist the devil's evil-thoughts with the Law/Word of God, eg "Thou shalt not commit adultery/sexual immorality" in another post.

What are you trying to do? Whose teachings are these?

I ask again, if you'd be so kind, in the name of the Living God, Jesus Christ who has come in the flesh, please tell me who your "Lord and God" is in clear writing.
 
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discipler7 said:
MATTHEW.6: =
In this manner, therefore, pray:
Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name. 10 Your kingdom come.
Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors.
13 And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.
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And then right after that you quote the prayer that Lord Jesus Himself taught, which we pray everyday:

"GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD"

It's unscriptural for able-bodied Christians to pray to God to feed them.???
MATTHEW.26: = Jesus Institutes the Lord’s Supper
26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.”

27 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. 29 But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

LUKE.22: =
Jesus Institutes the Lord’s Supper
14 When the hour had come, He sat down, and the twelve apostles with Him. 15 Then He said to them, “With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16 for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.”

17 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, “Take this and divide it among yourselves; 18 for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”

19 And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you. 21 But behold, the hand of My betrayer is with Me on the table. 22 And truly the Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!”

23 Then they began to question among themselves, which of them it was who would do this thing.
 
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MATTHEW.26: = Jesus Institutes the Lord’s Supper
26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.”

27 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. 29 But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

LUKE.22: =
Jesus Institutes the Lord’s Supper
14 When the hour had come, He sat down, and the twelve apostles with Him. 15 Then He said to them, “With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16 for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.”

17 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, “Take this and divide it among yourselves; 18 for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”

19 And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you. 21 But behold, the hand of My betrayer is with Me on the table. 22 And truly the Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!”

23 Then they began to question among themselves, which of them it was who would do this thing.

I'm glad to see yet again that you pull a certain part, quote some verses as if they support your claims and then ignore the rest of the post.

Here, let me ask you again:
You are pulling verses out of context, promoting masturbation, lust, premarital sex, encouraging fornication, claiming you shouldn't pray unless you feel like you "can not help yourself", shouldn't make a habit of praying, claiming a Christian should deal with evil, sin and lustful thoughts by their own power, likening the sin of fornication to eating tasty food and saying it is no different, saying "let evil thoughts come and go", promoting adultery and sexual immorality in one post then saying "Christians should resist the devil's evil-thoughts with the Law/Word of God, eg "Thou shalt not commit adultery/sexual immorality" in another post.

What are you trying to do? Whose teachings are these?

I ask again, if you'd be so kind, in the name of the Living God, Jesus Christ who has come in the flesh, please tell me who your "Lord and God" is in clear writing.
 
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She got hit really hard so I had to clean her wound really carefully wound really carefully and slowly, I spent the better half of an hour just inches from her face cleaning her up. Part way through that I realized I was no longer infatuated with her. I want having any strange inappropriate feelings all i could think about was how some one as smart as she could find her self in such a predicament where she was covered in mud and blood.
Maybe, at that moment, in your heart you were treating her as your little biological sister who was being sexually-harassed and bullied by men.

Most men do not lust after their biological sisters.
 
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@Deniz I don't understand any of what @discipler7 says. I have never ever heard any church or other Christians interpret scriptures as such. In fact some of what he or she says (don't make a habit of prayer) is extremely troubling and stands counter to everything I have ever learned. I may be interpreting what he is saying incorrectly but it almost seems like how train of though is identical to that of the pharisees. The idea that we or solved cn keep the law and that in exchange for keeping the law we are rewarded with salvation? Does that sound like the gist of what he is advocating?
 
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Jeepers. This is the most twisted part of the story.
There is a reason Mississippi is routinely considered the most corrupt state in the union. Where do you think the stereotype of the corrupt southern sheriff comes from? I honestly think she was lucky she wasn't given a couple whacks with a police baton.
 
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Once I was feeling sorry for men. They are so visual and in this culture sex is constantly thrown in their faces. Even in grocery stores there are magazines with scantily clad women leering at them. But I felt the Father showed me HE did not feel sorry for them! I felt He showed me they were being given an opportunity to make right choices and win the victory, which could be summed up as "What's it gonna be? The Lord, or the ladies?"
 
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This woman is still unsafe. Please continue to stay civil, but not overly friendly. She is still not your friend.

You are a kind, understanding man, but it's ok to distance yourself from difficult people.

She bit into a guy's arm.
No question about it. She's not playing with a full deck. But to be fair the guy did grope her not once, not twice, but three times. She just ignored when he slapped her rear the first time, she asked him to remove his arm from her the second time, and she only bit him when he grabbed her breasts. I am sure that man will think twice before harassing another woman.
But you are correct, nothing about her head changed in this situation she is just as corrupt, promiscuous, unrepentant, and unhinged so I know she can still be used as a tool.
So do you suppose it is OK to get to know the woman she introduced me to? From what I understand that woman is a Methodist. She loves my coworker as a daughter but she says she is scared to death that some of her antics may get her killed one day. She doesn't think my coworker is wicked just immature, meaning she doesn't necessarily condone her behavior but she doesn't support it either.
 
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This woman is still unsafe. Please continue to stay civil, but not overly friendly. She is still not your friend.

You are a kind, understanding man, but it's ok to distance yourself from difficult people.

She bit into a guy's arm.
Amen.
 
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MICHAEL Off topic, one thing I notice is that you have a knack for telling a good story. (I am not saying "story" as in falsehood, of course.) You bare your heart in a way that engages the reader and you include details that also engage. Of course, also, the story is downright attention getting. As a woman I felt anger at the sexual harassment and put downs of females seen in your post by those in the trucking industry. What creeps!

I so agree with Gracia, above, that you need to keep a distance from the woman. She is still hitting on you and won't stop, most likely. I have seen women like that. They consider men as potential notches on their bed posts. To her you are a potential conquest and she is obviously real good at pretense and manipulation. Considering her history I would also be thinking: STDs.

Keep up the prayers. Satan will be looking for any weak spots. Don't let down your guard and good for you on your victories to date. I believe you will be the winner in the future, just as you are the winner now.
 
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As far as her biting into a guy's arm, I consider that concerning because she should never have put up with the first instance of sexual harassment. If she had put him in his place and told him she was going to report him he would not have escalated. If a guy thinks he can put his hand on a woman's fanny with no consequences, of course he is going to escalate.
 
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The fact that she grabbed your handgun is outrageous and needs to be reported and documented.
I would have but this girl is smart. When she found it and started fiddling with it she half jokingly reminded me that I am in a company vehicle and that concealed weapons are prohibited in company vehicles and are prohibited on the rig site. That's why I changed the subject to talk about her, pretty much exactly what she was fishing for.
It seems the boss is turned on by her so he or she may be no help at all.
Boss definitely isn't turned on by her, she is a married 50 year old Muslim woman who treats my Co worker like her child rather than her employee. It blew my mind when I saw her braiding her hair and the fact that she packed her a little bag lunch with a sandwich, juice box, goldfish crackers and a fruit roll up made me feel like I was a school bus driver taking a child to kindergarten.
I would pray about maybe telling the woman that you are documenting her sexual harassment. I would also start singing Christian songs a lot in the vehicle. A whole lot.

Singing praise songs is a form of spiritual warfare. Read how David gave relief to Saul from evil spirits when he sang. Read how Paul and Silas got out of prison when they were singing praise songs.
Funny you should say that. I did try this and what she did was just grab her saxophone and start playing Holy Holy and when I tried to get her to stop (not really a good idea to pay an alto sax inside a an enclosed SUV) she said she thought I wanted to "Praise". She for some reason knows a ton of praise songs and can play them from memory.
 
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