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No harm in trying but conversions are rare.I'm not for "eliminating" scientists.
I'm for getting them converted.
The science pool is a mission field unto itself.
Put people in power and they will dream up ways to use it, the more power the greater the damage. Case in point, the US empire.Religion is to blame for crusades, inquisition, pogroms,
Twin towers and a million other atrocities.
And they were not mistakes, they did it on purpose
with the intent to do what happened.
Religion. Belief in " god".
No. That's just people. Some of us found out long ago that Religion provided a really good excuse for doing all these things. Don't blame Religion; blame misapplication of our evolutionary history.Religion is to blame for crusades, inquisition, pogroms,
Twin towers and a million other atrocities.
And they were not mistakes, they did it on purpose
with the intent to do what happened.
Religion. Belief in " god".
Having gender identity problems, are you?A man getting a husband? Awesome! Welcome to the enlightened side.
This, unfortunately, is probably correct.And AV's approach is not one likely to cause a scientist to sit up and take notice of what he is saying, in any positive way at least.
You must have taken advanced classes in Missing the Point and graduated Magna Cum Laude.This, unfortunately, is probably correct.
Their Leave-God-At-The-Front-Door-When-You-Come-In-Here attitude will ensure they get minimal exposure to the Gospel at work and at school.
Questions of identity and purpose.
No. That's just people. Some of us found out long ago that Religion provided a really good excuse for doing all these things. Don't blame Religion; blame misapplication of our evolutionary history.
You are confusing gender identity with sexual orientation. Even the bible recognized sexual orientation.Having gender identity problems, are you?
It many ways it has proven to be self-defeating. Among the top reasons why people de-convert are evangelical war on evolution and their antiquated stance on sexual orientation.And AV's approach is not one likely to cause a scientist to sit up and take notice of what he is saying, in any positive way at least.
No. That's just people. Some of us found out long ago that Religion provided a really good excuse for doing all these things. Don't blame Religion; blame misapplication of our evolutionary history.
I don't see religion being concerned with identity. And as for ultimate purpose, there is none. For our own purpose? We make of it as we will. But we're just static in the random noise of an indifferent universe.
There will come a time when someone will have the last thought of you. And then it will be as if you never existed. So...make the most of your time. You won the celestial lottery. Don't waste it.
Well that's your belief. You can choose that idea to believe. Religion provides a framework and ideas for an alternative. Rather than not having an answer or belief for why there is something rather than nothing, religion suggests a purpose or reason for existence that transcends ourselves. Rather than a purpose being "none", the purpose generally follows ideas of worship, love and ministry.
Bonnie and Clyde can make of a purpose as they will in robbing banks and living lives of excitement and adventure. But in religion, typically there's an effort to reject purposes that destroy others, or so we ideally like to think.
And maybe one day science will discover "purpose". But that's kind of a strange concept. It's not really something that science works with.
And I would say that religions are strongly concerned with identity in the sense that religious people find purpose for why they exist through religion.
Those wars were going on when those persons were converted.Among the top reasons why people de-convert are evangelical war on evolution and their antiquated stance on sexual orientation.
I suppose it's fine if it suits someone and does
no harm.
In a science discussion it's best to stick to things
which have evidence, that being what science works with.
In general discussion of science v creationism
rr loves around facts, at least at first.
The problem for any religious belief about the
physical world is- no facts.
Flood ? Zero facts for, all known evidence against.
Then it goes SEDI, " same evidence, different interpretation "
As if just being "an interpratstion" were enough.
And finally to "man says, God says".
Some of us like to have actual evidence before
we decide what to believe.
I was thinking more about children brought up in evangelical families and basically isolated from outside influences. As they became teens, then adults they were exposed to outside ideas and social norms. As they matured, anti-evolution made less and less sense as did many Christian sexual norms that were now seen as sexual oppression.Those wars were going on when those persons were converted.
What changed?
And if it's good enough for children, it's good enough for adults.I was thinking more about children brought up in evangelical families and basically isolated from outside influences.
Does that go hand-in-hand with the virgin bride passage? Are we talking child brides now?And if it's good enough for children, it's good enough for adults.
Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
No. Perhaps you are unaware who the letter was addressed to?Having gender identity problems, are you?
The church was created "from water and the word"? What water? Sounds like somebody making things up.Here's one of God's cause-and-effects; see if you can determine both effect and gender:
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