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Noah's Ark

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Once again you are saying that others are liars without any evidence.
Either Mr. Nye is outright lying, or he is not aware of how the Bible has the earth configured at the moment.

Right now, I'll give him the benefit of a doubt and assume he thinks the Flood caused the breakup of Pangaea.

But for the record, he needs to put the right map up.
 
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Notice how he subtly asks how the kangaroo got to Australia from the "Middle East" ... not how they got to Australia from the Ark?

Where do you think that Noah's Ark landed? The story does say Mt Ararat. Last time that I checked that was in the Middle East. But say the ark landed in Australia. Now you have no problems with kangaroos, but you do have the same problem with all non-marsupials.
 
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Where do you think that Noah's Ark landed?
It doesn't matter where Noah's Ark landed.

It could have landed on Mt. Tai, and Mr. Nye would have probably asked how the kangaroo got to Australia from China.

It's what he's not saying, not what he is saying, that I'm taking issue with.
 
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Either Mr. Nye is outright lying, or he is not aware of how the Bible has the earth configured at the moment.

That is your interpretation of how the world was configured. And of course you are just claiming that the Bible was wrong again by insisting on a configuration that did not exist during man's existence. If anything he was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Right now, I'll give him the benefit of a doubt and assume he thinks the Flood caused the breakup of Pangaea.

Oh my! I did not read your "benefit of the doubt" claim until now. Though who knows, it may have caught the corner of my eye. And no, he knows when Pangaea broke up. It had nothing to do with a non-existent flood.

But for the record, he needs to put the right map up.

He had the right map up. You would not want him to lie, would you?
 
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It doesn't matter where Noah's Ark landed.

It could have landed on Mt. Tai, and Mr. Nye would have probably asked how the kangaroo got to Australia from China.

It's what he's not saying, not what he is saying that I'm taking issue with.


I know, you are trying to claim that the Bible is even wronger than Nye thought.

Once again, we know when Pangaea broke up.
 
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Once again, we know when Pangaea broke up.
Nice try.

You're doing the same thing Mr. Nye is doing.

Subtly taking God out of the picture with your wording.

How's come you didn't say:

"We know when Pangaea was broken up"?
 
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Nice try.

You're doing the same thing Mr. Nye is doing.

Subtly taking God out of the picture with your wording.

How's come you didn't say:

"We know when Pangaea was broken up"?

Fine, we know when Pangaea broke up. "was" implies that someone was behind it.

And if you want to claim that God was involved then the burden of proof is upon you. So far you have merely spouted opinion that I doubt that you can support.
 
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No, there seriously isn't. I don't think that you understand the concept. But if you have if please bring it.
If it was important to you, you would have looked. That is why I am done with this conversation.
 
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If it was important to you, you would have looked. That is why I am done with this conversation.


I have looked. There is none. It appears that you made a claim that you could not support.

In a discussion it is not wise to go off half cocked.
 
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LOL

Solid aurum.

Another seven continents at 01:40.

When are you science types going to get the story straight?

Ever?

Maybe if creationists presented a unified, non-contradictory set of claims, then scientists could actually address them. But every creationist seems to have their own version of creationism. From your 'embedded age' to 'different-state-past' to 'Noah was from another planet', there's really no end to all of the different ideas.
 
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Nice try.

You're doing the same thing Mr. Nye is doing.

Subtly taking God out of the picture with your wording.

How's come you didn't say:

"We know when Pangaea was broken up"?

Science doesnt deal in magic, only in physical reality.

And we do know that there was no worldwide flood in physical reality, we also know how continents move and the speed they move.
 
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I think I might be looking elsewhere for an exegesis of Genesis. Maybe Gerhard Von Rad or Keil & Delitzsch, according to taste.
Rad sees the continuum of faith exhibited by multiple authors. The problem with the scripture is that it's like a wonderful salad with some rotten elements.
 
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Rad sees the continuum of faith exhibited by multiple authors. The problem with the scripture is that it's like a wonderful salad with some rotten eliments.

I own Von Rad's commentary on Genesis, and he follows the conventional J, E, D, P hypothesis.
 
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You mean something plucked out of knowhere sometime during the first half of the twentieth century.
Did you think God and all of his subordinates died at the end of the Bible? Did you think they were finished revealing truth?
 
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