Noah's Ark

[HitchSlap]

My wife has the Star of Mongolia on her lower spine.

Nice.

 

[HitchSlap]

Uh-huh.

And I'm 1 in 200 men.

Indeed you are.

 

[Colter]

That sounds pretty miraculous! Why did it take humans so long to re-discover Jacobean English? And why would the Secretaries working under the aegis of King James rely on the non-English (Greek and Hebrew) texts available to write the KJV?

The Tower of Babel was made out of raisin bread

 

[AV1611VET]

That sounds pretty miraculous!

What's so miraculous about people speaking the same language?

The miracle is going to bed saying, "Good night," and waking up in the morning and saying, "Habari za asubuhi."

Why did it take humans so long to re-discover Jacobean English?

To coincide with the writing of the KJB, the Bible that exists in Heaven.

Let me ask you something.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

What do you think those books are? the sixty-six books of the KJB, or the Encyclopedia Britannica?

And why would the Secretaries working under the aegis of King James rely on the non-English (Greek and Hebrew) texts available to write the KJV?

If they did, they did it ignorantly.

As I understand it, they only used Satan's Greek and Hebrew garbage for reference.

My favorite example is the word "Easter" ...

Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

... where they had both "Passover" and "Feast of Ishtar" available to write, but wrote "Easter" instead.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am not the confused one here.

Go ahead.

Use your precious science and tell me how old the earth is in Genesis 1:1.

I defy you.

You see, it's a different story when you can't rely on your fossils and geology, isn't it?

But do surprise me.

How old is Earth in Genesis 1:1?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Go ahead.

Use your precious science and tell me how old the earth is in Genesis 1:1.

I defy you.

You see, it's a different story when you can't rely on your fossils and geology, isn't it?

But do surprise me.

How old is Earth in Genesis 1:1?

Your request is nonsensical.

 

[Colter]

I'm getting hungry

 

[AV1611VET]

Your request is nonsensical.

What's wrong?

No tectonic plates to measure? no DNA to compare? no SN1987's around? no black holes, CSMB's, or tree rings, ice cores, or trilobites?

Looks like your science is SOL (short on luck).

 

[Colter]

Go ahead.

Use your precious science and tell me how old the earth is in Genesis 1:1.

I defy you.

You see, it's a different story when you can't rely on your fossils and geology, isn't it?

But do surprise me.

How old is Earth in Genesis 1:1?

Gen 1:1 is a fictional story written for the child like mind if commen Israelites. The assumptions of age would be mythical speculation.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What's wrong?

No tectonic plates to measure? no DNA to compare? no SN1987's around? no black holes, CSMB's, or tree rings, ice cores, or trilobites?

Looks like your science is SOL (short on luck).

It is a story that is not meant to be taken literally. I could compare it to works of fiction, but I would not want to get into trouble.

Why do you insist that a part of the Bible that is clearly allegorical at best has to be taken literally?

 

[AV1611VET]

Nice.

I'm getting hungry

If there's anything else I can't help you boys with, just ask.

 

[AV1611VET]

Gen 1:1 is a fictional story ...

Pretty short story, isn't it?

I've used a shorter one (In the beginning, God) to pwn those who arc & spark about Christians having different interpretations supposedly being the reason they don't believe in God.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is a story that is not meant to be taken literally.

Then don't take it literally, if that's not your bag.

Just tell me how old it is.

 

[HitchSlap]

Pretty short story, isn't it?

I've used a shorter one (In the beginning, God) to pwn those who arc & spark about Christians having different interpretations supposedly being [one of] the reason they don't believe in God.

In case you're wondering.

*bolding mine

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Through canyons and valleys it's even crazier fast!

Here's an experiment you can try at home: Take a gallon of water and pour it out of a wide brim bucket, measure the speed of the water in volume/time.

Now pass the same volume of water through a narrow hose, measure the speed.

Et viola!

Not applicable to the flood.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The water had to flow. Otherwise it would still be on the land. To get it off of the land you need to do some very high speed horizontal movement of it.

And that is just one of your problems. Where did the water come from? Where did it go to? The oceans were already full. And why can't you kidnap anyone off of the street when you need an organ transplant?

Bring the moon close enough to accomplish the task. It will not only raise the size of the tidal bulge but raise the sea beds as well spilled enormous amounts of water onto the land (which will sink under the weight given even more height/depth to the flood.

 

[Obliquinaut]

Go ahead.

Use your precious science and tell me how old the earth is in Genesis 1:1.

This is only important if one NEEDS Genesis 1:1 to be anything more than allegory.

I defy you.

You are asking others to hypothesize based on your pre-conceptions.

Can I ask you if you could do that? Could YOU hypothesize a world wherein Genesis 1 is allegorical?

You see, it's a different story when you can't rely on your fossils and geology, isn't it?

And the same could be said of you! If you are unable to explain to Subduction how the world would look without Literal Genesis 1 then you have no right to demand the opposing position from him.

How old is Earth in Genesis 1:1?

Whatever you want it to be! Hence we have YEC and OEC!

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Water flowing across landscapes would indeed have to be MIRACULOUS to attain only laminar flow.



You really need to learn more about particle sizes. Hint: there are particle sizes below "silt". Google "clay size".

Also check out the morphology of the clay minerals (which often take on clay size fraction). They are nice little flat plates that take a LONG TIME to settle out even in perfectly still water.

Perhaps you could talk to a clay mineralogist. If they want to separate out clay minerals for use in an x-ray diffractometer they will suspend them in water and let them settle out in a very still setting and even then it takes a while.

Now imagine even with laminar flow how long it will take these particles to settle out.

They don't need to settle out at all but would be carried into the sea when the flood receded.

 

[Obliquinaut]

Not applicable to the flood.

ONLY IF THE WATER RISING UP ON THE CONTINENTS was not rising up on the continents of earth. OR if you assume the continents before the Flood were near perfect planes.

YOU brought up laminar flow. You can't now run away from it.

 

[Obliquinaut]

They don't need to settle out at all but would be carried into the sea when the flood receded.

So why is there shale and clay on the continents post Flood? Or are you of the opinion that there isn't?