Noah in New Jersey

[TLK Valentine]

God rested (ceased) from creating ex nihilo after the creation week, in which He raised the amount of mass/energy in the universe from zero to its current level over a period of six days.

Creating ex materia, such as for the widow of Zarephath and the governor at Cana, is another matter.

Are you suggesting that God can no longer create ex nihilo?

(Let me guess: Olive trees don't grow in Ararat?)

Did they grow there pre-flood?

 

[AV1611VET]

So Noah disobeyed and didn't make the ark, or is the bible wrong when the bible states that Noah did make the ark?

Noah built the Ark.

Why should I think otherwise?

 

[pgp_protector]

Noah built the Ark.

Why should I think otherwise?

Because you stated it was a TARDIS using New Jersey Pine, and that Noah couldn't build it using New Jersey pine

 

[TLK Valentine]

Noah built the Ark.

Why should I think otherwise?

Because you just said he couldn't.

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you suggesting that God can no longer create ex nihilo?

I'm suggesting God won't (not can't).

Even when He destroys the universe, He will recreate a new one from the same energy.

Did they grow there pre-flood?

Beats me.

Probably.

 

[AV1611VET]

Because you stated it was a TARDIS using New Jersey Pine, and that Noah couldn't build it using New Jersey pine

Noah built the Ark, God made it into a TARDIS box.

Meaning its inside was larger than its outside.

Noah did his part, and God did the rest; including bringing the animals to and from the Ark.

 

[AV1611VET]

Because you just said he couldn't.

Where?

 

[RickG]

Ford creates (ex materia) all the time.

Okay, let me make it absolutely clear. Is God the only one who created things in Genesis?

 

[Cearbhall]

Noah built the Ark, God made it into a TARDIS box.

Meaning its inside was larger than its outside.

Don't tell me you watch Doctor Who...

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm suggesting God won't (not can't).

Even when He destroys the universe, He will recreate a new one from the same energy.

Did God tell you this, or did you tell God this?

 

[AV1611VET]

Okay, let me make it absolutely clear. Is God the only one who created things in Genesis?

In Genesis 1 ... yes.

 

[AV1611VET]

Don't tell me you watch Doctor Who...

Never seen Doctor Who.

 

[AV1611VET]

Did God tell you this, or did you tell God this?

God said it, that settles it.

 

[RickG]

In Genesis 1 ... yes.

Wrong.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image,

The bible (God) said it, that settles it.

 

[Cearbhall]

God said it, that settles it.

So if I write something down and tell you that God said it to me, you'll accept it as the gospel truth?

 

[TLK Valentine]

God said it, that settles it.

God said he won't create ex nihilo anymore?
God said He hasn't created ex nihilo since the creation week?

 

[doubtingmerle]

Anyone else want to try and convince I don't know what I'm talking about with this New Jersey stuff?

If not, I'll just move on.

Why do you need multiple people to tell you that it would have been impossible for New Jersey to be touching Europe in the time of Noah's human ancestors? Care to explain how you think the Atlantic Ocean could have come into existence in the last 10,000 years or so? That would be impossible, for the reasons we have listed.

 

[AV1611VET]

Wrong.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image,

The bible (God) said it, that settles it.

I see.

You're not monotheistic?

Or are you interpreting "we" as including the angels?

 

[doubtingmerle]

So if I write something down and tell you that God said it to me, you'll accept it as the gospel truth?

Do you have a beard, herd goats, and live in Palestine in Bible times? I think that might help your case.

 

[AV1611VET]

God said he won't create ex nihilo anymore?

You don't believe the First Law of Thermodynamics?