Noah in New Jersey

[AV1611VET]

Did Noah have a Jersey accent?

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[RickG]

Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

That doesn't imply a single landmass. Furthermore, you have to explain catastrophic plate tectonics.

 

[RickG]

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What language did Noah speak?

 

[AV1611VET]

whatever plant life that existed on Earth would've been obliterated, and anything growing could've only grown after the flood waters receded.

God restored the plant life after the Flood.

Remember the olive leaf the dove brought back just after the Flood?

Where did that tree come from?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Why should I think otherwise.

Because you're assuming that they were there then just because they're there now.

Genesis 7:23 makes it pretty clear that whatever was there was obliterated... to be expected after a year under saltwater.

Meaning that if the flood happened, the New Jersey Pine Barrens are new growth.... post flood.

What was there pre-flood -- do you know?

 

[RickG]

God restored the plant life after the Flood.

Where does the bible state that?

Remember the olive leaf the dove brought back just after the Flood?

Where did that tree come from?

Yeah, that's a pretty big problem.

 

[TLK Valentine]

God restored the plant life after the Flood.

Remember the olive leaf the dove brought back just after the Flood?

Where did that tree come from?

An olive tree, of course. But was that tree there before the flood, or did God replant as part of the "clean up" you claim he did?

According to you, the continents themselves got shifted around -- surely the flora and fauna did as well, did it not?

 

[AV1611VET]

That doesn't imply a single landmass.

It doesn't rule it out either.

Furthermore, you have to explain catastrophic plate tectonics.

God orchestrated the Flood.

That means He took care of the details.

 

[AV1611VET]

What language did Noah speak?

Jacobean English, the language of Heaven, IMO.

 

[RickG]

It doesn't rule it out either.

Yes it does. Remember, you are the one that first suggested physics.

God orchestrated the Flood.

That means He took care of the details.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yeah, that's a pretty big problem.

Not for me.

 

[RickG]

Jacobean English, the language of Heaven, IMO.

The bible doesn't support that.

 

[RickG]

Not for me.

It is if you don't include "creation science' catastrophic plate tectonics.

 

[AV1611VET]

An olive tree, of course. But was that tree there before the flood, or did God replant as part of the "clean up" you claim he did?

That I don't know.

My guess is that it was a brand new tree created ex materia.

According to you, the continents themselves got shifted around --

In Genesis 10 ... yes.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is if you don't include "creation science' catastrophic plate tectonics.

Creation science can take a hike.

As in Genesis 1, the Flood was a series of miracles performed on the earth.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That I don't know.

My guess is that it was a brand new tree created ex materia.

Why ex materia? Seeing as how God has the power to do things ex nihilo, why do it the hard way?

And surely you're not assuming that since God put an olive tree there post flood, that there was an olive tree there pre flood, are you?

 

[RickG]

Is God the only one who created things?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why ex materia? Seeing as how God has the power to do things ex nihilo, why do it the hard way?

God rested (ceased) from creating ex nihilo after the creation week, in which He raised the amount of mass/energy in the universe from zero to its current level over a period of six days.

Creating ex materia, such as for the widow of Zarephath and the governor at Cana, is another matter.

And surely you're not assuming that since God put an olive tree there post flood, that there was an olive tree there pre flood, are you?

Absolutely.

Why not?

(Let me guess: Olive trees don't grow in Ararat?)

 

[AV1611VET]

Is God the only one who created things?

Ford creates (ex materia) all the time.

 

[pgp_protector]

But you said that the Ark was like a TARDIS box.... you can't make a functioning TARDIS out of New Jersey Pine...

Neither could Noah.

So Noah disobeyed and didn't make the ark, or is the bible wrong when the bible states that Noah did make the ark?