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Probably from another part of his commentary. It doesn't support the argument in the OP.
The Doctrine of the Nicolaitans was gnostic antinomianism and licentiousness.
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The Doctrine of the Nicolaitans was gnostic antinomianism and licentiousness.
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what if St, Nicolas got into a fight with the Nicolations? who would win? I mean given St. Nicolas is a saint and he was known for his temper(Punching out a heretic at the Nicene council) what do you think? Santa Claus is no more mr. nice guy!
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Actually, the etymology is usually shown to mean "victory of the people", like Nikodemos (same meaning).
Here is Wikipedia again:
Here is Wikipedia again:
Nicholas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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In the later part of the first century they were speaking of the same thing.
2:14-15. They had been guilty of severe compromise by holding the teaching of Balaam and the teaching of the Nicolaitans. Balaam had been guilty of counseling King Balak to cause Israel to sin through intermarriage with heathen women and through idol-worship (cf. Num. 22-25; 31:15-16). Intermarriage with heathen women was a problem in Pergamum where any social contact with the world also involved worship of idols. Usually meat in the marketplace had been offered to idols earlier (cf. 1 Cor. 8).
They were also condemned for following the Nicolaitans teaching. Earlier the Ephesian church had been commended for rejecting what appears to be a moral departure (cf. Rev. 2:6). Some Greek manuscripts add here that God hates the teaching of the Nicolaitans, as also stated in v. 6. Compromise with worldly morality and pagan doctrine was prevalent in the church, especially in the third century when Christianity became popular. So compromise with pagan morality and departure from biblical faith soon corrupted the church.
Walvoord, John F., Roy B. Zuck and Dallas Theological Seminary. The Bible Knowledge Commentary : An Exposition of the Scriptures, V 2, p 936. Wheaton, IL: Victor Books, 1983-.
They were also condemned for following the Nicolaitans teaching. Earlier the Ephesian church had been commended for rejecting what appears to be a moral departure (cf. Rev. 2:6). Some Greek manuscripts add here that God hates the teaching of the Nicolaitans, as also stated in v. 6. Compromise with worldly morality and pagan doctrine was prevalent in the church, especially in the third century when Christianity became popular. So compromise with pagan morality and departure from biblical faith soon corrupted the church.
Walvoord, John F., Roy B. Zuck and Dallas Theological Seminary. The Bible Knowledge Commentary : An Exposition of the Scriptures, V 2, p 936. Wheaton, IL: Victor Books, 1983-.
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Well lets get the full spectrum then
Quote from~1917 Scofield Reference Bible Notes
Quote from~McArthur Study Bible
Quote from Adam Clarke's Commentary on The Bible (((((MIXING PAGAN RITES WITH CHRISTIAN CEREMONIES))))))))))))
Quote from~1917 Scofield Reference Bible Notes
Re 2:6
1 Nicolaitanes
Margin: Nicolaitanes
1 Nicolaitanes
From nikao, "to conquer," and laos, "the people," or "laity."
If the word is symbolic it refers to the earliest form of the notion of a priestly order, or "clergy," which later divided an equal brotherhood
Mt 23:8 into "priests" and "laity."
Matthew 23:8
"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
What in Ephesus was "deeds" Re 2:6 had become in Pergamos a "doctrine Re 2:15.
1 Peter 5:2-3
Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseersnot because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve; 3not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.
Matthew 24:45-49
"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,' 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.
1 Peter 5:2-3
Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseersnot because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve; 3not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.
Ps 26:5
I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked.
Ps 101:3
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
Ps 139:21
Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
2Jo 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
1 Nicolaitanes
Margin: Nicolaitanes
1 Nicolaitanes
From nikao, "to conquer," and laos, "the people," or "laity."
If the word is symbolic it refers to the earliest form of the notion of a priestly order, or "clergy," which later divided an equal brotherhood
Mt 23:8 into "priests" and "laity."
Matthew 23:8
"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
What in Ephesus was "deeds" Re 2:6 had become in Pergamos a "doctrine Re 2:15.
1 Peter 5:2-3
Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseersnot because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve; 3not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.
Matthew 24:45-49
"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,' 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.
1 Peter 5:2-3
Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseersnot because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve; 3not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.
Ps 26:5
I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked.
Ps 101:3
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
Ps 139:21
Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
2Jo 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
Stronges concordence
3531 Nikŏlaı̈tēs (2), adherent of Nicolaüs
3531 Nikŏlaı̈tēs (2), adherent of Nicolaüs
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A problem in Pergamos also (vv. 1215), this heresy was similar to the teaching of Balaam (vv. 14,15).
Nicolas means one who conquers the people.
Irenaeus writes that Nicolas, who was made a deacon in Acts 6, was a false believer who later became apostate; but because of his credentials he was able to lead the church astray.
And, like Balaam, he led the people into immorality and wickedness.
The Nicolaitans, followers of Nicolas, were involved in immorality and assaulted the church with sensual temptations.
Clement of Alexander says, They abandoned themselves to pleasure like goats, leading a life of self-indulgence.
Their teaching perverted grace and replaced liberty with license.
2:7 him who overcomes. True believers enjoy the promise of heaven
MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed.) (Re 2:6).
Quote from~Family Bible NotesNicolas means one who conquers the people.
Irenaeus writes that Nicolas, who was made a deacon in Acts 6, was a false believer who later became apostate; but because of his credentials he was able to lead the church astray.
And, like Balaam, he led the people into immorality and wickedness.
The Nicolaitans, followers of Nicolas, were involved in immorality and assaulted the church with sensual temptations.
Clement of Alexander says, They abandoned themselves to pleasure like goats, leading a life of self-indulgence.
Their teaching perverted grace and replaced liberty with license.
2:7 him who overcomes. True believers enjoy the promise of heaven
MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed.) (Re 2:6).
Re 2:6
Nicolaitanes; a corrupt sect, who seem to have turned Christian liberty into licentiousness.
Quote from~William Burklett's Expository NotesNicolaitanes; a corrupt sect, who seem to have turned Christian liberty into licentiousness.
Note here, 1. That it is not unlawful to call heretics by the name of their leaders; the Nicolaitans are here so called from one Nicolas, supposed to be the deacon mentioned, who having a beautiful wife exposed her as common, to avoid the imputation of jealousy.
Note, 2. That Christ hated all licentious doctrines and loose practices, and so should we.
Note AlsoNote, 2. That Christ hated all licentious doctrines and loose practices, and so should we.
Quote from Adam Clarke's Commentary on The Bible (((((MIXING PAGAN RITES WITH CHRISTIAN CEREMONIES))))))))))))
Re 2:6
The deeds of the Nicolaitanes - These were, as is commonly supposed, a sect of the Gnostics, who taught the most impure doctrines, and followed the most impure practices. They are also supposed to have derived their origin from Nicolas, one of the seven deacons mentioned Ac 6:5 (note).
The Nicolaitanes taught the community of wives, that adultery and fornication were things indifferent, that eating meats offered to idols was quite lawful; and
mixed several pagan rites with the Christian ceremonies.
Augustine, Irenaeus, Clemens Alexandrinus, and Tertullian, have spoken largely concerning them.
quotes from~Matthew Poole's Commentary on the Holy BibleThe deeds of the Nicolaitanes - These were, as is commonly supposed, a sect of the Gnostics, who taught the most impure doctrines, and followed the most impure practices. They are also supposed to have derived their origin from Nicolas, one of the seven deacons mentioned Ac 6:5 (note).
The Nicolaitanes taught the community of wives, that adultery and fornication were things indifferent, that eating meats offered to idols was quite lawful; and
mixed several pagan rites with the Christian ceremonies.
Augustine, Irenaeus, Clemens Alexandrinus, and Tertullian, have spoken largely concerning them.
Which I also hate:
God, as a lover of his own order, and of human society, hateth such doctrines and practices as are contrary to the rule of his word, and
tend to add to the confusion of human societies.
Quote from~A. T. Robertson's Word PicturesGod, as a lover of his own order, and of human society, hateth such doctrines and practices as are contrary to the rule of his word, and
tend to add to the confusion of human societies.
Re 2:6
That thou hatest (hoti miseis). Accusative object clause in apposition with touto (this). Trench tells of the words used in ancient Greek for hatred of evil (misoponêria) and misoponêros (hater of evil), neither of which occurs in the N.T., but which accurately describe the angel of the church in Ephesus.
Of the Nicolaitans (tôn Nikolaitôn). Mentioned again in verse Re 2:15 and really meant in verse Re 2:2. Irenaeus and Hippolytus take this sect to be followers of Nicolaus of Antioch, one of the seven deacons (Ac 6:5), a Jewish proselyte, who is said to have apostatized.
There was such a sect in the second century (Tertullian), but whether descended from Nicolaus of Antioch is not certain, though possible (Lightfoot).
It is even possible that the Balaamites of verse Re 2:14 were a variety of this same sect (verse Re 2:15). Which I also hate (ha kagô misô). Christ himself hates the teachings and deeds of the Nicolaitans ((((ha, not hous, deeds, not people))))), but the church in Pergamum tolerated them.
quote from Albert Barnes~Notes on the BibleThat thou hatest (hoti miseis). Accusative object clause in apposition with touto (this). Trench tells of the words used in ancient Greek for hatred of evil (misoponêria) and misoponêros (hater of evil), neither of which occurs in the N.T., but which accurately describe the angel of the church in Ephesus.
Of the Nicolaitans (tôn Nikolaitôn). Mentioned again in verse Re 2:15 and really meant in verse Re 2:2. Irenaeus and Hippolytus take this sect to be followers of Nicolaus of Antioch, one of the seven deacons (Ac 6:5), a Jewish proselyte, who is said to have apostatized.
There was such a sect in the second century (Tertullian), but whether descended from Nicolaus of Antioch is not certain, though possible (Lightfoot).
It is even possible that the Balaamites of verse Re 2:14 were a variety of this same sect (verse Re 2:15). Which I also hate (ha kagô misô). Christ himself hates the teachings and deeds of the Nicolaitans ((((ha, not hous, deeds, not people))))), but the church in Pergamum tolerated them.
I. In regard to the origin of the name, there have been three opinions:
(1.) That mentioned by Irenoeus, and by some of the other fathers, that the name was derived from Nicolas, one of the deacons ordained at Antioch, Ac 6:5. Of those who have held this opinion, some have supposed that it was given to them because he became apostate and was the founder of the sect, and others because they assumed his name in order to give the greater credit to their doctrine. But neither of these suppositions rests on any certain evidence, and both are destitute of probability. There is no proof whatever that Nicolas the deacon ever apostatized from the faith and became the founder of a sect; and if a name had been assumed in order to give credit to a sect and extend its influence, it is much more probable that the name of an apostle would have been chosen, or of some other prominent man, than the name of an obscure deacon of Antioch.
(2.) Vitringa, and most commentators since his time, have supposed that the name Nicolaitanes was intended to be symbolical, and was not designed to designate any sect of people, but to denote those who resembled Balaam, and that this word is used in the same manner as the word Jezebel in Re 2:20, which is supposed to be symbolical there. Vitringa supposes that the word is derived from nikoV, victory, and laoV, people, and that thus it corresponds with the name Balaam, as meaning either HEBREW lord of the people, or HEBREW he destroyed the people; and that, as the same effect was produced by their doctrines a by those of Balaam, that the people were led to commit fornication and to join in idolatrous worship, they might be called Balaamites or Nicolaitanes--that is, corrupters of the people. But to this it may be replied,
(a) that it is far-fetched, and is adopted only to remove a difficulty;
(b) that there is every reason to suppose that the word here used refers to a class of people who bore that name, and who were well known in the two churches specified;
(c) that, in Re 2:15, they are expressly distinguished from those who held the doctrine of Balaam, Re 2:14--"So hast thou also (kai) those that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes."
(3.) It has been supposed that some person now unknown, probably of the name Nicolas, or Nicolaus, was their leader, and laid the foundation of the sect. This is by far the most probable opinion, and to this there can be no objection. It is in accordance with what usually occurs in regard to sects, orthodox or heretical, that they derive their origin from some person whose name they continue to bear; and as there is no evidence that this sect prevailed extensively, or was indeed known beyond the limits of these churches, and as it soon disappeared, it is easily accounted for that the character and history of the founder were so soon forgotten.
II. In regard to the opinions which they held, there is as little certainty.
Irenaeus (Adv. Haeres. i. 26) says that their characteristic tenets were the lawfulness of promiscuous intercourse with women, and of eating things offered to idols.
Eusebius (Hist. Eccl. iii. 29) states substantially the same thing, and refers to a tradition respecting Nicolaus, that he had a beautiful wife, and was jealous of her, and being reproached with this, renounced all intercourse with her, and made use of an expression which was misunderstood, as implying that illicit pleasure was proper.
Tertullian speaks of the Nicolaitanes as a branch of the Gnostic family, and as, in his time, extinct.
Mosheim (De Rebus Christian. Ante Con. 69) says that "the questions about the Nicolaitanes have difficulties which cannot be solved."
Neander (History of the Christian Religion, as translated by Torrey, i. pp. 452, 453) numbers them with Antinomians; though he expresses some doubt whether the actual existence of such a sect can be proved, and rather inclines to an opinion noticed above, that the name is symbolical, and that it is used in a mystical sense, according to the usual style of the book of Revelation, to denote corrupters or seducers of the people, like Balaam. He supposes that the passage relates simply to a class of persons who were in the practice of seducing Christians to participate in the sacrificial feasts of the heathens, and in the excesses which attended them--just as the Jews were led astray of old by the Moabites, Numbers 25.
What was the origin of the name, however, Neander does not profess to be able to determine, but suggests that it was the custom of such sects to attach themselves to some celebrated name of antiquity, in the choice of which they were often determined by circumstances quite accidental. He supposes also that the sect may have possessed a life of Nicolas of Antioch, drawn up by themselves or others from fabulous accounts and traditions, in which what had been imputed to Nicolas was embodied.
Everything, however, in regard to the origin of this sect, and the reason of the name given to it, and the opinions which they held, is involved in great obscurity, and there is no hope of throwing light on the subject.
It is generally agreed, among the writers of antiquity who have mentioned them, that they were distinguished for holding opinions which countenanced gross social indulgences.
This is all that is really necessary to be known in regard to the passage before us, for this will explain the strong language of aversion and condemnation used by the Saviour respecting the sect in the epistles to the churches of Ephesus and Pergamos.
Which I also hate. If the view above taken of the opinions and practices of this people is correct, the reasons why he hated them are obvious. Nothing can be more opposed to the personal character of the Saviour, or to his religion, than such doctrines and deeds.
(1.) That mentioned by Irenoeus, and by some of the other fathers, that the name was derived from Nicolas, one of the deacons ordained at Antioch, Ac 6:5. Of those who have held this opinion, some have supposed that it was given to them because he became apostate and was the founder of the sect, and others because they assumed his name in order to give the greater credit to their doctrine. But neither of these suppositions rests on any certain evidence, and both are destitute of probability. There is no proof whatever that Nicolas the deacon ever apostatized from the faith and became the founder of a sect; and if a name had been assumed in order to give credit to a sect and extend its influence, it is much more probable that the name of an apostle would have been chosen, or of some other prominent man, than the name of an obscure deacon of Antioch.
(2.) Vitringa, and most commentators since his time, have supposed that the name Nicolaitanes was intended to be symbolical, and was not designed to designate any sect of people, but to denote those who resembled Balaam, and that this word is used in the same manner as the word Jezebel in Re 2:20, which is supposed to be symbolical there. Vitringa supposes that the word is derived from nikoV, victory, and laoV, people, and that thus it corresponds with the name Balaam, as meaning either HEBREW lord of the people, or HEBREW he destroyed the people; and that, as the same effect was produced by their doctrines a by those of Balaam, that the people were led to commit fornication and to join in idolatrous worship, they might be called Balaamites or Nicolaitanes--that is, corrupters of the people. But to this it may be replied,
(a) that it is far-fetched, and is adopted only to remove a difficulty;
(b) that there is every reason to suppose that the word here used refers to a class of people who bore that name, and who were well known in the two churches specified;
(c) that, in Re 2:15, they are expressly distinguished from those who held the doctrine of Balaam, Re 2:14--"So hast thou also (kai) those that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes."
(3.) It has been supposed that some person now unknown, probably of the name Nicolas, or Nicolaus, was their leader, and laid the foundation of the sect. This is by far the most probable opinion, and to this there can be no objection. It is in accordance with what usually occurs in regard to sects, orthodox or heretical, that they derive their origin from some person whose name they continue to bear; and as there is no evidence that this sect prevailed extensively, or was indeed known beyond the limits of these churches, and as it soon disappeared, it is easily accounted for that the character and history of the founder were so soon forgotten.
II. In regard to the opinions which they held, there is as little certainty.
Irenaeus (Adv. Haeres. i. 26) says that their characteristic tenets were the lawfulness of promiscuous intercourse with women, and of eating things offered to idols.
Eusebius (Hist. Eccl. iii. 29) states substantially the same thing, and refers to a tradition respecting Nicolaus, that he had a beautiful wife, and was jealous of her, and being reproached with this, renounced all intercourse with her, and made use of an expression which was misunderstood, as implying that illicit pleasure was proper.
Tertullian speaks of the Nicolaitanes as a branch of the Gnostic family, and as, in his time, extinct.
Mosheim (De Rebus Christian. Ante Con. 69) says that "the questions about the Nicolaitanes have difficulties which cannot be solved."
Neander (History of the Christian Religion, as translated by Torrey, i. pp. 452, 453) numbers them with Antinomians; though he expresses some doubt whether the actual existence of such a sect can be proved, and rather inclines to an opinion noticed above, that the name is symbolical, and that it is used in a mystical sense, according to the usual style of the book of Revelation, to denote corrupters or seducers of the people, like Balaam. He supposes that the passage relates simply to a class of persons who were in the practice of seducing Christians to participate in the sacrificial feasts of the heathens, and in the excesses which attended them--just as the Jews were led astray of old by the Moabites, Numbers 25.
What was the origin of the name, however, Neander does not profess to be able to determine, but suggests that it was the custom of such sects to attach themselves to some celebrated name of antiquity, in the choice of which they were often determined by circumstances quite accidental. He supposes also that the sect may have possessed a life of Nicolas of Antioch, drawn up by themselves or others from fabulous accounts and traditions, in which what had been imputed to Nicolas was embodied.
Everything, however, in regard to the origin of this sect, and the reason of the name given to it, and the opinions which they held, is involved in great obscurity, and there is no hope of throwing light on the subject.
It is generally agreed, among the writers of antiquity who have mentioned them, that they were distinguished for holding opinions which countenanced gross social indulgences.
This is all that is really necessary to be known in regard to the passage before us, for this will explain the strong language of aversion and condemnation used by the Saviour respecting the sect in the epistles to the churches of Ephesus and Pergamos.
Which I also hate. If the view above taken of the opinions and practices of this people is correct, the reasons why he hated them are obvious. Nothing can be more opposed to the personal character of the Saviour, or to his religion, than such doctrines and deeds.
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DIfferent Nicholas.
Nicholas of Myrna did punch Arius in the nose at Nicea in 325.
He got into a whole lot of trouble and nearly was deposed as a Bishop. It is considered unseemly for Bishops to punch Priests.
Only the intervention of the Lord Jesus and the Blessed Virgin in visions to some of the other Bishops saved him.
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The majority seem to agree that the Nicolaitans spoken of were a gnostic sect.
This is not surprising since even the Gospel of John was written with a mind to deny the doctrines of the Gnostics.
The gnostics were the first major challenge to orthodox belief.
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Jude 12-19
2 Peter 2:22
1 John 2:18-23
Apostasy, false teachers, false prophets, spirit of the antichrist.
Jude 20-24
The body of Christ, evangelism, pulling apostates and people of the world out of the fire.
2 Peter 2:22
1 John 2:18-23
Apostasy, false teachers, false prophets, spirit of the antichrist.
Jude 20-24
The body of Christ, evangelism, pulling apostates and people of the world out of the fire.
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Basically pulling an Obama (Thanks Calminian!)
Wiki doesn't actually support this interpetation. It does tell us the etymology of the name Nicolas, but that Nicolatian simply means followers of a man named Nicolas. If we want to find out what Reaganite or Thatcherite means do we look up books on history and economics, or do we look of the meanings of names and find out that a Reaganites are really 'like kings' and that Thatcherites instead of following the political philosophy of Margaret Thatcher really like to fix straw roofs. Sometimes names in the bible have a special significance, especially when God has given the person their name, but usually they are simply what someone's mum and dad called them. Sadducee come from the name of the priest Zadoc whose name means 'Just'. Is the bible telling us the Sadducees were just? Herod and the Herodians comes from a name that means 'Hero'. But how is that relevant to our understanding of what the bible is talking about when it speaks of Herod or the Herodians?
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It also shows the Greek meaning as accepted by the Scoffield Bible.
And yet, Tertulliun also spoke against "the church of a lot of bishops" and in defence of Montanists whose practices were against 'those who 'conquered the laity'
The most widely known defender of Montanists was undoubtedly Tertullian, onetime champion of orthodox belief, who believed that the new prophecy was genuine and began to fall out of step with what he began to call "the church of a lot of bishops"
Montanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They were those who challenged orthodox beliefs and apparently lost.
Although the orthodox Christian church prevailed against Montanism within a few generations, inscriptions in the Tembris valley of northern Phrygia, dated between 249 and 279, openly proclaim their allegiance to Montanism.
[/quote]The most widely known defender of Montanists was undoubtedly Tertullian, onetime champion of orthodox belief, who believed that the new prophecy was genuine and began to fall out of step with what he began to call "the church of a lot of bishops"
Montanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They were those who challenged orthodox beliefs and apparently lost.
Although the orthodox Christian church prevailed against Montanism within a few generations, inscriptions in the Tembris valley of northern Phrygia, dated between 249 and 279, openly proclaim their allegiance to Montanism.
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Something doesn't line up somewhere.
Pope Eleuterus even wrote letters in support of Montanism, although he later recalled them (Tertullian, "Adversus Praxean" c.1, Trevett 58-59).
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Just a side note but 'hmmnnn'
Some of the Montanists were also "Quartodeciman" ("fourteeners"), preferring to celebrate Easter on the Hebrew calendar date of 14 Nisan, regardless of what day of the week it landed on. Orthodox Christians held that Easter should be commemorated on the Sunday following 14 Nisan. (Trevett 1996:202)
Some of the Montanists were also "Quartodeciman" ("fourteeners"), preferring to celebrate Easter on the Hebrew calendar date of 14 Nisan, regardless of what day of the week it landed on. Orthodox Christians held that Easter should be commemorated on the Sunday following 14 Nisan. (Trevett 1996:202)
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Tertullian became a Montanist. That doesn't mean that everything he wrote was wrong.
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They also weren't heretics, they were Puritans. They held to prophetic gifts and had many prophets and prophetessess in their membership.
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At the time it was understood that some of the members of the Montanists claimed to be persons of the Holy Trinity.
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? Tertullian says that the soul is indeed immortal, but contends it is a body. He maintains that this is true not only of the soul, but also of God himself.
Tertullian : St Augustine's De haeresibus ch. 86
Perhaps that was construed from this ^ I've read that also but the writings that remain are mostly those from views against them.
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