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but what if the things are in your heart when you say them, but not afterwards. i dont understand how you ca mean some of the things that you say an i know ive meant the,-at the moment. but i have days were im angry an hopeless that God has left me that i think (things like what the pharasiess said) about Him.
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What I'm saying is that NO, they all aren't ocd. You can't possbily say that everyone of them are OCD thoughts. that's playing it waaay too safe and not accepting responsiblilty for being a bad person. I admit that the thought might be of some result (being completely drained & feeling like your life is worthless). I am almost 100% sure that I called Jesus that, all my own. I didn't rejoice in it or anything and I don't agree with it. but I said that in my head and there is NO excuse for it.
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Hello Caty,
I have had those type of things going through my head since I was five years old. I do believe it is part of the OCD and like it is testing me to see how far I will go. I am not sure if that makes any sense, but are you perhaps testing yourself in a repetitive manner for some reason or another. It is so hard to explain. Much of my religious OCD runs amok in my mind. I have some checking behaviours, but the worst of it is internalized. With medication it did help me be able to push these thoughts away some, but I still suffer with it. I have to believe that God knows this is not really what I want or need and that I don't mean it literally. I think our minds play games with us sometimes Caty, I really do.
Why would a five year old have words of hate spewing forth about the Lord? I also had behaviours like pulling out my hair and kept trying to swallow my tongue. I know this sounds crazy, but I still suffer the same thoughts I did, but worse since I was small. The only way I have been able to push forward is with medication and counseling. I wish I could help you, but the most I can do is share my experience and offer prayer. Wouldn't God be able to understand what was wrong with me at 5 years of age? I am sure he could. So he still must understand what is really going on with me now. Maybe if you are angry or upset over something you need to get that out and get healed from that anger. Last year I ended up in the hospital after letting anger take over. My OCD got worse than ever, but in the process I learned a lot and got much help that was needed. I am not saying you are angry, but perhaps you have become a slave to fear. Fear can cause these things I think. I believe God will forgive you of any sin, and that he will somehow help you through this. I do not believe that you have to keep repeatedly repenting.
Don't give up. God bless you and may he bring you some peace of mind. You have to let these thoughts go and it is hard to do, but it does help. Everyone here has offered great advice from what I have been reading. Also, I am not sure what your triggers are, but perhaps there are some feelings deep down that you need to get out into the open with a therapist, or a pastor, or even with God himself. Anyways, no matter what I wish you well.
I have had those type of things going through my head since I was five years old. I do believe it is part of the OCD and like it is testing me to see how far I will go. I am not sure if that makes any sense, but are you perhaps testing yourself in a repetitive manner for some reason or another. It is so hard to explain. Much of my religious OCD runs amok in my mind. I have some checking behaviours, but the worst of it is internalized. With medication it did help me be able to push these thoughts away some, but I still suffer with it. I have to believe that God knows this is not really what I want or need and that I don't mean it literally. I think our minds play games with us sometimes Caty, I really do.
Why would a five year old have words of hate spewing forth about the Lord? I also had behaviours like pulling out my hair and kept trying to swallow my tongue. I know this sounds crazy, but I still suffer the same thoughts I did, but worse since I was small. The only way I have been able to push forward is with medication and counseling. I wish I could help you, but the most I can do is share my experience and offer prayer. Wouldn't God be able to understand what was wrong with me at 5 years of age? I am sure he could. So he still must understand what is really going on with me now. Maybe if you are angry or upset over something you need to get that out and get healed from that anger. Last year I ended up in the hospital after letting anger take over. My OCD got worse than ever, but in the process I learned a lot and got much help that was needed. I am not saying you are angry, but perhaps you have become a slave to fear. Fear can cause these things I think. I believe God will forgive you of any sin, and that he will somehow help you through this. I do not believe that you have to keep repeatedly repenting.
Don't give up. God bless you and may he bring you some peace of mind. You have to let these thoughts go and it is hard to do, but it does help. Everyone here has offered great advice from what I have been reading. Also, I am not sure what your triggers are, but perhaps there are some feelings deep down that you need to get out into the open with a therapist, or a pastor, or even with God himself. Anyways, no matter what I wish you well.
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annrobert
Jesus is my Shelter my Refuge my Fortress
1 Timothy 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Mark 2:17
When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luke 5:32
I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Mark 2:17
When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luke 5:32
I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
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But I thought that all my own, no excuses. I committed the sin, I just have to live the rest of my life to the fullest, because Im going to Hell. You can't say that if you didnt know me or know that I have ocd, & I told you I called Jesus what the pharasiess called Him in my mind because I got mad then you would think that I was unforgiveable. Although I didn't say anythign about His Spirit, insulting or calling his character anything less than what it is is insulting His Spirit so there for---I committed this isn.
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annrobert
Jesus is my Shelter my Refuge my Fortress
Without having to even know a person I do know this,
the Word of God is Truth
will never pass away
and cannot be broken
Isaiah 55:1
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
John 7:37
In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If Any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
John 6:35
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Acts 2:21
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Zechariah 13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
the Word of God is Truth
will never pass away
and cannot be broken
Isaiah 55:1
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
John 7:37
In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If Any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
John 6:35
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Acts 2:21
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Zechariah 13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
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annrobert
Jesus is my Shelter my Refuge my Fortress
Jesus said, verily verily I say unto you, he that believeth on Me has everlasting Life.
Jesus is the resurrection and the Life
Our responsibility is to believe on Jesus
believe what He says
if we
Come to Him for cleansing and forgiveness and mercy and Life and rest, we will in no wise be cast out.
Anyone who comes to Jesus will in no wise be cast out
If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness
Regardless of what ocd fears thoughts confusions say otherwise
Jesus is Truth
We need not get anything under control before we come
we cannot fix ourselves anyways
just surrender and put ourselves in Jesus hands
Jesus invites us to come under His wings
He is safe
will not cast out anyone who comes to Him
leads us to still Waters
restores our souls
we just have to come
Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
You mentioned earlier that you were making an appointment to get on medication,
I was wondering how that was coming?
I think medication and professional counselling may benefit you a great deal and help ease your suffering
Jesus is the resurrection and the Life
Our responsibility is to believe on Jesus
believe what He says
if we
Come to Him for cleansing and forgiveness and mercy and Life and rest, we will in no wise be cast out.
Anyone who comes to Jesus will in no wise be cast out
If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness
Regardless of what ocd fears thoughts confusions say otherwise
Jesus is Truth
We need not get anything under control before we come
we cannot fix ourselves anyways
just surrender and put ourselves in Jesus hands
Jesus invites us to come under His wings
He is safe
will not cast out anyone who comes to Him
leads us to still Waters
restores our souls
we just have to come
Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
You mentioned earlier that you were making an appointment to get on medication,
I was wondering how that was coming?
I think medication and professional counselling may benefit you a great deal and help ease your suffering
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annrobert
Jesus is my Shelter my Refuge my Fortress
Caty,
Any mental affliction is only a result of being human just like any physical affliction is only a result of being human.
Out of the two afflictions with all the pain they cause I found mental affliction much harder to bear than the physical afflictions.
Still Jesus welcomes all people
with any affliction to come and will in no wise cast them out.
We just have to come.
Any mental affliction is only a result of being human just like any physical affliction is only a result of being human.
Out of the two afflictions with all the pain they cause I found mental affliction much harder to bear than the physical afflictions.
Still Jesus welcomes all people
with any affliction to come and will in no wise cast them out.
We just have to come.
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annrobert
Jesus is my Shelter my Refuge my Fortress
Whether it is result of ocd or not
Jesus promises still stand True
Isaiah 55:1
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
John 7:37
In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If Any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
John 6:35
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Acts 2:21
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Zechariah 13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
1 Timothy 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Mark 2:17
When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luke 5:32
I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Even if anyone told me that Jesus would cast me out if I came to Him for mercy and forgiveness and cleansing and Life it would not be true
Even if I told myself that Jesus would cast me out if I came to Him for mercy and forgiveness and cleansing and Life it would not be true
Even if an angel told me that Jesus would cast me out if I came to Him for mercy and forgiveness and cleansing and Life it would not be true
Jesus said he that cometh to Me ,I will in no wise cast out
whosoever will come, may come and will not be cast out
Jesus said whosoever will may come
Galations
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Romans 9
30What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; 33As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on Him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 3:4
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Our carnal minds cannot be trusted and need to be renewed.
Jesus is trustworthy and is Truth
John 6:47
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Jesus said he that cometh to me , I will in no wise cast out.
Jesus is Truth.
whosoever will may come.
I hope you consider getting treatment soo.
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Caty
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but I CAME to Jesus, & then all of this happened. I've ASKED for forgiveness 10,000X, does that make a difference I considered myself saved. But whenever I see anything bad (like the earthquake that just happened) I look at all of thos people who have died and I blame God and I have to try an talk myself out of calling Him bad things in my mind and I start to believe them, but like tomorrow I will probably see the truth and feel terrible about thinking these bad things. Is THAT ocd? I doubt it.
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Caty
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but even though i thought I was saved I was always searching for forgiveness, i haveNEVER rested int he fact that Jesus could forgive me because I was always to bad for that and now I realize I wasnt, but i think Ive gone too far now.
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Caty
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yes, set apart from the rest of the Bible this seems great news. But put with the rest of the Bible you see that it means all of those except the ones who have committed that sin.
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I know I seem to be going in circles, but im soo afraid you all will give up on me and stop posting for me..
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TimAM
God fearing and God loving!
Hi Caty, can I suggest you try something?
Instead of focusing on worrying, focus on praising God. I know, that may sound hard to do with these ocd thoughts going on in your mind. Try your hardest to ignore intrusive thoughts and focus on honoring God. Take your thoughts captive:
2 Corinthians 10:5-"Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"
When you notice that you are starting to worry, switch your attention to praising God. Focus on praising God. Resolve to give God everything, pray to him and tell him that you give all of your anxiety and problems over to him. Ask him to lead you and guide you.
Focus on pleasing, glorifying, and honoring God in everything you do and not on worrying. Honor him with your actions and your attitude, by the way you live. When you wake up in the morning, thank God for the day and praise him. Things going good? Praise him! Things going bad? Praise him!
Hebrews 13:15-"By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name."
In all your ways, acknowledge him. Like for example, if you are eating and drinking, thank God for it and ask him to bless it.
Proverbs 3:5-6 "Trust in the LORD with all your heart; and lean not to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct your paths." Glory to God!
I like to point out verse 5 of the verses above.....Trust in the LORD with all your heart! Lean not on your own understanding. God's ways are higher than our ways. Seek his counsel. God knows you have OCD.
1 Corinthians 10:31-"Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God."
Colossians 3:23-"Whatever you do, do your work heartily, as for the Lord rather than for men,"
James 4:10: "Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up."
Humble yourself before God. Get on your knees and cry out to him. Hand all your anxiety over to him. Ask him to forgive you of all your sins in Jesus precious name!
1 Peter 5:6-7 "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care on him; for he cares for you."
Psalms 31:24-"Be of good courage, and he shall strengthen your heart, all you that hope in the LORD."
Obey God fully and redirect your focus from your anxiety and ocd to glorifying, honoring and pleasing God. Don't worry about the OCD (I know it's easier said than done), focus on praising God. Give God your anxiety.
Praying for you Caty. Just remember to try and redirect your focus from your thoughts to praising God!
Also, I saw earlier in this topic that you worry about your health and you look up the symptoms. I had that really really bad in 2003-2004 and 2008. I can't remember how many times I broke down. I would constantly search symptoms and think I had a disease. This is called hypochondria, another form of OCD. You have to avoid obsessively searching symptoms (not saying that you should avoid it all together, just don't do it obsessively). That just keeps the cycle going. If you think there is something wrong, go to a doctor. I was able to overcome it by coming to God. Praise God! Break these thought cycles and take them captive. We are told not to worry and be anxious. God will take care of us if we trust in him.
Instead of focusing on worrying, focus on praising God. I know, that may sound hard to do with these ocd thoughts going on in your mind. Try your hardest to ignore intrusive thoughts and focus on honoring God. Take your thoughts captive:
2 Corinthians 10:5-"Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"
When you notice that you are starting to worry, switch your attention to praising God. Focus on praising God. Resolve to give God everything, pray to him and tell him that you give all of your anxiety and problems over to him. Ask him to lead you and guide you.
Focus on pleasing, glorifying, and honoring God in everything you do and not on worrying. Honor him with your actions and your attitude, by the way you live. When you wake up in the morning, thank God for the day and praise him. Things going good? Praise him! Things going bad? Praise him!
Hebrews 13:15-"By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name."
In all your ways, acknowledge him. Like for example, if you are eating and drinking, thank God for it and ask him to bless it.
Proverbs 3:5-6 "Trust in the LORD with all your heart; and lean not to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct your paths." Glory to God!
I like to point out verse 5 of the verses above.....Trust in the LORD with all your heart! Lean not on your own understanding. God's ways are higher than our ways. Seek his counsel. God knows you have OCD.
1 Corinthians 10:31-"Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God."
Colossians 3:23-"Whatever you do, do your work heartily, as for the Lord rather than for men,"
James 4:10: "Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up."
Humble yourself before God. Get on your knees and cry out to him. Hand all your anxiety over to him. Ask him to forgive you of all your sins in Jesus precious name!
1 Peter 5:6-7 "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care on him; for he cares for you."
Psalms 31:24-"Be of good courage, and he shall strengthen your heart, all you that hope in the LORD."
Obey God fully and redirect your focus from your anxiety and ocd to glorifying, honoring and pleasing God. Don't worry about the OCD (I know it's easier said than done), focus on praising God. Give God your anxiety.
Praying for you Caty. Just remember to try and redirect your focus from your thoughts to praising God!
Also, I saw earlier in this topic that you worry about your health and you look up the symptoms. I had that really really bad in 2003-2004 and 2008. I can't remember how many times I broke down. I would constantly search symptoms and think I had a disease. This is called hypochondria, another form of OCD. You have to avoid obsessively searching symptoms (not saying that you should avoid it all together, just don't do it obsessively). That just keeps the cycle going. If you think there is something wrong, go to a doctor. I was able to overcome it by coming to God. Praise God! Break these thought cycles and take them captive. We are told not to worry and be anxious. God will take care of us if we trust in him.
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