Revelation 20:4-6 is a reference about WHOM will reign with Him.This is a reference to the end of the tribulation and the start of the literal thousand years. It doesn't say that it's going to be on earth.
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Revelation 20:4-6 is a reference about WHOM will reign with Him.This is a reference to the end of the tribulation and the start of the literal thousand years. It doesn't say that it's going to be on earth.
It's already here. There are over 3 dozen chapters of prophecy about the New Jerusalem. They pretty specifically interpret it as a illustration God's people in the age that was to follow the age of the four gentile empires. No one has any right to cast an interpretation on it outside of the way the Bible itself does. I think you'll find this indisputable if you read this link.When does the new or heavenly Jerusalem arrive?
After the 1,000 years Reign of Jesus on the Earth[Revelation 20:4-6]... the Great White Throne Judgment will happen Revelation 20:11-15....When does the new or heavenly Jerusalem arrive?
The original plan was for the Jews to accept their Messiah, then Jesus would have began the Kingdom of God on earth right away because it really was "at hand" at that time.
When does the new or heavenly Jerusalem arrive?
Small detail ...only when New Jerusalem will come down on the New Earth [Revelation 21:1-3]you will be allowed to enter it [Revelation 21:7] ....thus after the Great White Throne Judgment [Revelation 20:11-15.]The New Jerusalem is God's house, that has many mansions, one for every one of us who belong to Jesus. It is in the process of being filled up with believers, as recorded in Jn.14:2-3 and Rom.11:25.
When nthe times of the Gentiles, believers, has come to the full, they will all be caught up to be with the Lord forever in 1 Thess.4:17.
They will return with Jesus in His second coming, in Rev.19:14,
Do you think that we are actually living on the New Earth Revelation 21?End times threads are two a penny! God must be looking down and shaking his head!
Do you think that we are actually living on the New Earth Revelation 21?
There was effectively things to happen soon upon the 7 Churches in existence during the Time of John [Revelation 2 ...Revelation 3]I believe, as Jesus said, all these things would happen soon. I believe they have. I also believe that people take Revelation and interpret what the see in black and white as, black and white!
I do. The New Earth as the Bible prophesied it though, not as you imagine it. There are dozens of chapters of prophecy about the New Jerusalem, not just two.Do you think that we are actually living on the New Earth Revelation 21?
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock:I do. The New Earth as the Bible prophesied it though, not as you imagine it. There are dozens of chapters of prophecy about the New Jerusalem, not just two.
Like this:
Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.18 But be you glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
. 20 There shall be no more there an infant of days, nor an old man that has not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, said the LORD.
Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.18 But be you glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
Yes they do. Just like mountains, hills, trees are illustrations of the nations in the prophetic language of the Bible. so are animals.The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock:
Do you see LIONS eating STRAW like the BULLOCK ?If not, that is because this is not the New Earth mentioned in Isaiah 65:17-25 and Revelation 21.
I remember the old, sin-cursed earth.
I heard my cousins weeping at my aunt's funeral a couple of weeks ago.
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Another mistake you are making about these prophecies is that you fancy that God will impose them on the world miraculously rather than God will work with peoples hearts to create an environment where the promises can come to pass if people or nations will meet the conditions.
Peter was not given an understating of the times and seasons of Bible prophecy. Acts 2:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. None of the apostles were except John and that because he got to live through a lot of things they prophesied, like the end of the Old Covenant age. The others were all dead by the time those events rolled around. Anyway. That is all a huge subject and fire is used all over the Old Testament to illustratively prophesy the destruction of nations in Old Testament times. What Peter is prophesying about is the end of the Old Covenant age. His prophecy was entirely accurate. What he thought it all meant was not. The end of the world is not prophesied in the Bible. Just the end of the Old Covenant age and the end of the age of those four gentile empires followed by this age that has well over a hundred chapters of prophecy and promise concerning it that are coming to pass before the eye's of the whole world. Those are the prophecies people should be putting their faith in.When do you think the New Heavens and the New Earth that Peter was looking for in 2 Peter 3:10-13 came to fruition?
Peter was not given an understating of the times and seasons of Bible prophecy. Acts 2:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. None of the apostles were except John and that because he got to live through a lot of things they prophesied, like the end of the Old Covenant age. The others were all dead by the time those events rolled around. Anyway. That is all a huge subject and fire is used all over the Old Testament to illustratively prophesy the destruction of nations in Old Testament times. What Peter is prophesying about is the end of the Old Covenant age. His prophecy was entirely accurate. What he thought it all meant was not. The end of the world is not prophesied in the Bible. Just the end of the Old Covenant age and the end of the age of those four gentile empires followed by this age that has well over a hundred chapters of prophecy and promise concerning it that are coming to pass before the eye's of the whole world. Those are the prophecies people should be putting their faith in.
This is the first few chapters of the article I linked. If you haven't read it please do. It will open your eye's to something you have not really noticed before. When do these come to pass?
The Bride of Christ
In Galatians 4 the Apostle declares: 21 Tell me, you that desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a female slave, the other by a free woman. 23 But he who was of the female slave was born after the flesh; but he of the free woman was by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which engenders to bondage, which is Hagar. 25 For this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answers to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written, Rejoice, you barren that bore not; break forth and cry, you that travail not: for the desolate has many more children than she which has an husband. 28 Now we, brothers, as Isaac was, are the children of promise, 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what said the scripture? Cast out the female slave and her son: for the son of the female slave shall not be heir with the son of the free woman. 31 So then, brothers, we are not children of the female slave, but of the free. In this teaching the Apostle is clearly saying that the rituals and rites of the Mosaic law called the first covenant are symbolized by Hagar and the birth of Ishmael. He calls the mother of the children of the first covenant the physical city of Jerusalem. In the context of the entire chapter he is comparing the purely physical descendant's of Abraham to the people of faith, be they Jew or Gentile. The point of this is that he is quoting from one of the old Testament prophecies about the New Jerusalem to teach this; Isaiah 54. The article will go through it verse by verse to show the amazing accuracy of it as a prophecy.
(AKJV) Isaiah 54:1 Sing, O barren, you that did not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, you that did not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, said the LORD.
This is the verse Paul quotes. The way he is interpreting it is that the Mosaic Law and the physical city of Jerusalem were the married wife that bore many children. The people of faith though, few and for most of the history of ancient Israel persecuted and murdered by the faithless; these are the children of the desolate woman. However with the coming of the messiah the children of the desolate woman, in this case the children of the Jerusalem from above, the New Jerusalem, would bear more children than the earthly city would. The rest of the prophecy in Isaiah 54 will say more of this.
2 Enlarge the place of your tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of your habitations: spare not, lengthen your cords, and strengthen your stakes; 3 For you shall break forth on the right hand and on the left; and your descendants shall inherit the Nations, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. A truly amazing prophecy exhorting the faithful with the promise that lay ahead. That the people of faith soon to be of all nations will grow and expand. So much so that it will be said the descendant of Abraham, the Messiah, through them will inherit the nations. That the fruit of this will be prosperous civilizations. (The desolate cities will be inhabited.)
4 Fear not; for you shall not be ashamed: neither be you confounded; for you shall not be put to shame: for you shall forget the shame of your youth, and shall not remember the reproach of your widowhood any more. 5 For your Maker is your husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and your Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. 6 For the LORD has called you as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when you were refused, said your God. 7 For a small moment have I forsaken you; but with great mercies will I gather you. 8 In a little wrath I hid my face from you for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on you, said the LORD your Redeemer. 9 For this is as the waters of Noah to me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with you, nor rebuke you. 10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, said the LORD that has mercy on you.
Here are more references to the bride of Christ. The shame and the reproach of her youth and being forsaken is a reference to the tribulations the believers in ancient Israel faced at the hands of the Gentiles because of the wickedness of the majority of its citizens and its leaders. Due to this they were not recipients of any of the earthly promises of God made to Abraham and in many other places in the scripture. It seemed as if they were forsaken by God and left to the whims of the wicked. It mattered not how they lived their lives before the Lord. They reaped whatever the despots who ran the world sowed. This certainly did not change in New Testament times and for many a century beyond that. Yet in the next verses we have a promise of a day when that would not be so.
11 O you afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay your stones with fair colors, and lay your foundations with sapphires. 12 And I will make your windows of agates, and your gates of carbuncles, and all your borders of pleasant stones. 13 And all your children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of your children. 14 In righteousness shall you be established: you shall be far from oppression; for you shall not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near you. 15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whoever shall gather together against you shall fall for your sake. 16 Behold, I have created the smith that blows the coals in the fire, and that brings forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. 17 No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against you in judgment you shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, said the LORD.
The first few verses unmistakably use the same type of illustrations as the New Jerusalem in Revelation. Verse 14 clearly states that the way these children of the heavenly city will be established in the earth is because of righteousness. That the terror and the oppression their ancestors lived under and those peoples in the nations who do not know righteousness are subjugated to will not be their story, their testimony. Verse 15 points out that these promises will come to pass in a world where evil exists because the wicked seek to conquer the people of faith. It simply shows that unlike the ancient world where the wicked reigned in perpetuity. In this one with the Lords help, the righteous will come out on top.
To continue:The Bride of Christ