Nephilim and the General Resurrection

[RileyG]

Are the Nephilim human or sub-human? Will they rise again on the last day?

 

[Divide]

The Nephilim are hybrids. They are half (fallen) angel and half human. The flood killed off the Nephilim bodies, and their souls (if any) are not redeemable with the blood of Christ. God created man and is doing something with man and not with hybrids.

So once all of their bodies dies in the flood, they were now in spirit form and must wander the earth. This is why when Jesus had His ministry that, casting out demons is what He did the most of. So the nephilim who died in the flodd is where all those demons came from in the first place.

God punished them severely for taking our women. Bound in chains underground and so forth. So they changed tactics and suddenly there were a lot of cattle mutilations going on with all sorts of organs harvested and blood drained and all that for so many years now, right?

And we see more and more ufo's and grey aliens in pictures and stuff. They are making and cloning themselves little alien costumes for them to inhabit so they can do more. They are increasing their numbers for the war against God and I think the demons must have been trading technology to the US government in exchange for unrestricted acces to abduct people and cattle and stuff. Every time you hear an abduction story, I was abducted by aliens...they always say how a procedure on their reproductive systems take place. It makes too much sense to be wrong.

Come to think of it, I've never heard about a Christian being abducted by a UFO...!!! Only people who dabble in the ooccult or withcraft. Christians have authority over them in the name of Jesus.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Gosh, never even asked the question. Well... we see them here

Genesis 6:4 There were giants/Nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,
and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men
which were of old, men of renown.

Which are also called the sons of Anak

Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants/ Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants:
and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

But then here it says,

Joshua 11:32 There was none of the Anakims (descendents of Anak) left in the land of the children of Israel:
only in Gaza, in Gath, and in Ashdod, there remained .

The last verse shows they remained in Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod.

But then there is Goliath, of Gath, who was a champion out of the camp of the Philistines whose height was six cubits and a span.

How's that even work? There is supposedly none of the descendents of Anak anywhere but in Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod and here is Goliath coming out of the camp of the Philistines. Where is that exactly? I am missing something.

 

[RileyG]

Thanks

 

[Divide]

The last verse shows they remained in Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod.

The same areas that under dispute today in Israel.

 

[Fireinfolding]

The same areas that under dispute today in Israel.

What I was questioning, is that it states of Goliath was of Gath, but he was a champion out of the camp of the Philistines

Where is the camp of the Philistines located?

 

[BobRyan]

Are the Nephilim human or sub-human? Will they rise again on the last day?

They are human. All pre-flood humans were Nephilim ..
Noah was also Nephilim which is why Nephilim exist after the flood as well.
Those like Noah who are saints - will rise at the first resurrection in Rev 20 -- which is at the Rev 19 event.
Those who are wicked before the flood - will rise in the Rev 20 second resurrection


Number 13:33 - and there we saw the Nephilim, sons of Anak, of the Nephilim; and we are in our own eyes as grasshoppers; and so we were in their eyes.' YLT

Deut 2: 9 Then the Lord said to me, ‘Do not attack Moab, nor provoke them to war, for I will not give you any of their land as a possession, because I have given Ar to the sons of Lot as a possession.’ 10 (The Emim lived there previously, a people as great, numerous, and tall as the Anakim. 11 Like the Anakim, they too are regarded as Rephaim, but the Moabites call them Emim.
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So then long after the flood: Rephaim (Called EMIM by Moabites) were “Numerous and tall as Anakim (and Anakim were PART of the Nephilim, and were called Rephaim Detu 2:11).

 

[Fireinfolding]

I think that would now be Palestine.

Do know where in scripture the land of the Philistines is? Just out of curiosity.

 

[BobRyan]

The Nephilim were hybrid of the fallen Angels (the Watchers

Not according to Genesis

 

[Fireinfolding]

I believe Palestine claims the Gaza Strip and West Bank.....part of why the contention with Israel.

Nothing I recall from scripture though.

Genesis 21:22 Thus they made a covenant at Beersheba: then Abimelech rose up, and Phichol the chief captain of his host, and they returned into the land of the Philistines.

When you look up Abimelech King of Gerar (Genesis 20:20)

Gerar is

1. a Philistine town south of Gaza, modern 'Umm'

You could be correct, as noted a town the south of Gaza, but called modern "Umm"?

 

[BobRyan]

The Nephilim were hybrid of the fallen Angels (the Watchers

Not according to Genesis

Genesis 6:4

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: (KJV)
Matt 5:9 `Happy the peacemakers -- because they shall be called sons of God.
Romans 8:14 for as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God; YLT/ KJV

Gen 6
Now it came about, when mankind began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not remain with man forever, because he is also flesh; nevertheless his days shall be 120 years.” 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

The Nephilim predate that event where the sons of God began to intermarry with the descendants of Cain. The text is clear that this did not create Nephilim because they were already there before that.

All pre-flood mankind was nephilim.

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So then that makes Noah "Nephilim" and explains why it is that even many years after the flood there are still some Nephilim strain left in the DNA for mankind -

Number 13:33 - and there we saw the Nephilim, sons of Anak, of the Nephilim; and we are in our own eyes as grasshoppers; and so we were in their eyes.' YLT

Deut 2: 9 Then the Lord said to me, ‘Do not attack Moab, nor provoke them to war, for I will not give you any of their land as a possession, because I have given Ar to the sons of Lot as a possession.’ 10 (The Emim lived there previously, a people as great, numerous, and tall as the Anakim. 11 Like the Anakim, they too are regarded as Rephaim, but the Moabites call them Emim.

So then long AFTER the flood: Rephaim (Called EMIM by Moabites) were “Numerous and tall as Anakim (and Anakim were PART of the Nephilim, and were called Rephaim Detu 2:11).

 

[Fireinfolding]

When you look up Rephaim it says, proper gentilic noun... I was like what is that? I am no good at math, geography and any kind of proper grammar stuff (just being honest) so when I looked up what a proper gentilic noun was I fell across, DEMONyn

Never heard of that either, but has the word DEMON in it, so I thought it was cool

Demonyn...A demonym or gentilic is a word that identifies a group of people in relation to a particular place.

 

[Fireinfolding]

So maybe King Solomon gave his Egyptian wife and her family the land that Goliath came from.

Woosh... that one went right over my head
(but way too many things do so dont feel bad)

 

[Fireinfolding]

So what would be the difference in what is called Nephilim ( as a masculine noun) but the other called Rephaim ( which is a proper gentilic noun)?

I am truly ignorant so I have to ask, I thought they would be equally one kind of noun.

 

[BobRyan]

Sorry, did not mean to come off as abrupt or harsh....

That would mean Adam and Eve were Nephilim ?

yes - and I did not take your comment as the least bit harsh or abrupt. I considered it a serious POV.
So then Adam and Eve were Nephilim indeed. Many translations just say "giant" when rendering this term for events after the flood.

Compared to mankind today they lived a lot longer and were probably about twice as tall.
And likely had a massive IQ compared to us

 

[RileyG]

Thank you everyone for responding! I am learning a lot.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Sorry - I don't want to derail the thread, but how did the Egyptian's come to live in the Gaza strip?

I don't know I never looked, geography and following who lives where is not a strong point over here.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Misunderstood the question......

I was just asking what would be the difference in what is called Nephilim which is a "masculine noun" but why is the other one which is called Rephaim a "proper gentilic noun"?

Never heard of a "gentilic noun", thats new to me. Thats the one that is also called a DEMONyn and I never heard of that before either.

 

[Divide]

What I was questioning, is that it states of Goliath was of Gath, but he was a champion out of the camp of the Philistines

Where is the camp of the Philistines located?

I don't know where they were camped at.

 

[Divide]

Adam & Eve were not Nephilim.