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JCFantasy23

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I'm sorry, but I'm really not seeing how taking a child to the ground when he is attacking you or being a danger is assault in any way. The OP is saying the report is showing the son lied, as did the daughter, and he is here not seeking advice on what he felt he had to do as a father, but on his children and ex-wife working against him right now. I really feel for him, as I'm sure this situation is hard. Broken family situations are always miserable.
 
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Intojoy, you might want to do a study on the rod. It is a shepherd's tool, not use to beat the sheep, but to guide them by pointing it in the right direction, and to gently hook them back into the crowd if they wander from the herd.

ValleyGal, I hope you don't mind me asking you about the rod, when you said that "it is a shepherd's tool, not to use to beat the sheep, but to guide them by pointing in the right direction and to gently hook them back into the crowd if they wander from the herd"

I decided to look it up, and there are several verses in the Bible where it teaches parents to use the rod to discipline their chidren:

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

It seems the Lord instructs that the rod is used to beat or strike:

Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.



The word used, "beat", is from the hebrew word, "nakah", Strongs H5221, and here is a description of what that word means:

A primitive root; to strike (lightly or severely, literally or figuratively): - beat, cast forth, clap, give [wounds], X go forward, X indeed, kill, make [slaughter], murderer, punish, slaughter, slay (-er, -ing), smite (-r, -ing), strike, be stricken, (give) stripes, X surely, wound.


God's Word seem to say clearly that if you want to install in children a sense of right and wrong, and to guide them in the right path, the path of life, is to use the rod to beat (actually, a better word in our times may be "rap") them.

Of course, some people may go overboard with the use of the rod and harm the children emotionally and spiritually, and this is not what the Bible teaches... I guess it is a light rap that stings and it helps children this way.

That's all I share.

I hope the OP gets all the help he needs and for a peaceable outcome.
 
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Parenting is the hardest thing in the world (I know...all of mine are grown). Being a disciplinarian is hard on our hearts and I know from the way God spoke about the post flood situation in Noah's time that it was a heart breaking thing for Him to do too because He is so loving. We must always stop before spanking our children and ask ourselves why we are going to. Is it because they have made us mad, or because they need to learn and remember this extremely important thing. Those extremely important things come up rarely and I believe that spanking should be very rare, and the crime should always fit the punishment. Your child is not only going to remember how they were treated when they grow up, but often times their past is magnified and even sometimes inaccurate or distorted. We don't want them remembering their spankings or disciplining as the larger portion of their childhood. We want them to have loving and happy memories...we are the memory makers for them....and we always have to stop and check our motives and only use this extreme discipline to teach in the most extreme and rare instances. This doesn't mean let them get away with the small things. Parents need to be creative in their teachings and pray and ask God what they should do to teach them before making any rash choices. If a spanking is needed, let the Lord tell you that first...not your anger or fear for them.
 
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