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Neanderthals, Dinosaurs?

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Someone stated that Adam had a mother... any word on where that came from..
Also, Adam was "formed" by God's hands and his life was breathed into him by God's own breath...

Think about that.... God gave Adam life with His own breath... that life was transferred to Eve from Adams living rib.. Therefore.....the breath that you and I are breathing, is a continuation of the breath that God breathed into the man that God formed in His image with His own hands. AMAZING.

Everything that's "alive" has "the breath of life" though. And that is actually the Scriptural definition of "life". The "breath of life" that makes organisms "alive" is given at their individual inception; because the Scripture states that when they die, the breath of life returns to God. So although we inherit material existence as well as "souls" from our parents in the creation process, we do not inherit the breath of life from them. That comes directly from God and is what makes us "living" souls.
 
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Why do you guys think the earth is very young, when there is so, so very much that says it is much, much older than many YECs think...?

Understand there is a difference between thinking the Earth is very young now and it was very young the day Adam and Eve were created. Geologically, what is a "young" planet? If Earth was created in 6 days, it would have been 6 days 4.6 billion years ago.
 
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But chapter 2 is just additional information about chapter 1
Ok, you accept Science, now we need to look at what Science tells us about History. I took a class on ancient history around 50 years ago and I have studied the subject for a long time now. If people want to put five seconds worth of effort into something I have studied for 50 years then they are not going to have a clue as to what is going on. Let me give you an example. We teach our Sunday school children the story of "Joshua and the Battle of Jericho". YOU can go to YouTube to see the song they sing as they learn this story. Even at one year of age children can sing and march. Today you can go to Jericho and the "wall that came tumbling down" is still there. This is amazing because usually they will reuse the materials to build a house or something. Today God has preserved that wall for us so we can verify the story we read in our Bible. We can send our children to public school knowing that there is no conflict at all. What they learn in Science, History and in Sunday school all compliments and agrees with each other. There are busy bodies looking for an argument and what they need to do is concentrate on getting their education. My son simply did not have time to deal with those discussions when he was in school. It is the parents job to work with the board of education to make sure that the text books they use are accurate and reflect their beliefs. We determine a lot of this when we vote for the people who are going to sit on the board of education. Some people try to resolve this issue in a court when it is a lot easier to resolve this issue when we go to vote.

 

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If Earth was created in 6 days, it would have been 6 days 4.6 billion years ago.
You are talking about two different things and there is no need to reconcile them. With OEC (Old Earth Creationism) (Day Age Theory) the problem is the days are clearly NOT the same length. The ONLY person who can explain this that I know of is Gerald Schroeder. The reason he can explain this is because he has a PhD from MIT in Earth Science. BUT after he got his degree he also studied Kabbalah going back 1,000 years to Rabbi Moses Nachmanides. The reason he uses this approach is so that people can not accuse him of a modern approach that fits our modern understanding of Science.

Basically what Schroeder comes up with is that each day is HALF the length of the day before. He works this out to 7.1 day one 3.6 1.8 .89 .45 .23. Now you can go to day one and match that up with Science, you can go to day two and match that up with Science. So according to this 230 million years ago "God created mankind in his own image" as we read in Genesis chapter 1.

Gerald Schroeder - Articles - Age of the Universe

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You are talking about two different things and there is no need to reconcile them. With OEC (Old Earth Creationism) (Day Age Theory) the problem is the days are clearly NOT the same length. The ONLY person who can explain this that I know of is Gerald Schroeder. The reason he can explain this is because he has a PhD from MIT in Earth Science. BUT after he got his degree he also studied Kabbalah going back 1,000 years to Rabbi Moses Nachmanides. The reason he uses this approach is so that people can not accuse him of a modern approach that fits our modern understanding of Science.

Basically what Schroeder comes up with is that each day is HALF the length of the day before. He works this out to 7.1 day one 3.6 1.8 .89 .45 .23. Now you can go to day one and match that up with Science, you can go to day two and match that up with Science. So according to this 230 million years ago "God created mankind in his own image" as we read in Genesis chapter 1.

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Bit annoyed with that diagram as i dont see any dogs!!!
 
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God does not experience time.

As I stated, all the "Creation" words refer to transformation. Do the research.






Yes.. GOD does not fall within the confines of time... The world that He created does..

How does that explain why your car is not going 60 MPH because you don't have a speedometer?

Sorry officer but I could not have been speeding... I don't have a speedometer! LOL
 
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The fact that the world God created falls in the confines of time means absolutely NOTHING when we talk about how old things are. This is obvious.

Why do you keep twisting the meanings of what people say to fit your agenda?
 
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coal

Coal is very different from mineral rocks, which are made of inorganic material. Coal is made of fragile plant matter, and undergoes many changes before it becomes the familiar black and shiny substance burned as fuel.

Coal goes through different phases of carbonization over millions of years, and can be found at all stages of development in different parts of the world.



Coal takes a long time to form!
 
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Yes.. GOD does not fall within the confines of time... The world that He created does..

How does that explain why your car is not going 60 MPH because you don't have a speedometer?Sorry officer but I could not have been speeding... I don't have a speedometer! LOL

Evening and morning are not on a set schedule.
They are kind of regular if you are standing on the earth...which God does not.
I'll help with your research.

5 Thus says God the LORD— He who created the heavens and stretched them out,

bara': choose
Original Word: בָּרָא
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: bara'

choose, create creator, cut down, dispatch, do, make fat

A primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes) -- choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).

He created him; male and female

"Bara" is a slow process of change.
 
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Understand there is a difference between thinking the Earth is very young now and it was very young the day Adam and Eve were created. Geologically, what is a "young" planet? If Earth was created in 6 days, it would have been 6 days 4.6 billion years ago.

The description of the animals, and the Garden, and Adam and Eve, and the fruit all describe things older than a few days. Even "Dirt" and dust is a product of years.
 
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How do you explain that the hammer handle was already turning into coal.
How do you explain that the metal is of such a metallurgy that we cannot forge it or make the alloy today.
There are questions about the original dating process. It would be helpful if the Creation Evidence Museum would allow the London Hammer to be retested using modern methods and equipment.
In 1934 or 36, the rock around it was dated to 400 million yrs. ago; does that mean that the hammer is also 400 million yrs.old?
 
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The description of the animals, and the Garden, and Adam and Eve, and the fruit all describe things older than a few days. Even "Dirt" and dust is a product of years.

Absolutely. So I will never understand why people think Earth is a young planet.
 
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You can't delete your post, but you can delete the sentences containing retarded, delusional, idiot, and stupid.

Thank you for sincerely apologizing.

BTW I am not medically retarded. My IQ is probably around 100.
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Absolutely. So I will never understand why people think Earth is a young planet.

Having been a YE creationist for decades, I can tell you....the human brain clings to bad news. And the YE like to blame all societies problem on something. They've picked Old Earthers as the problem for all of society's problems because so many vocal OE people are not religious, it's an easy target.
 
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How do you explain that the metal is of such a metallurgy that we cannot forge it or make the alloy today.

Adam direct offspring invented metallurgy.
 
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You people use bones found in the ground to paint an entire theory of "evolution". When someone finds something that contradicts it.. you just "splain" it away.

Everyone does that.
 
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Having been a YE creationist for decades, I can tell you....the human brain clings to bad news. And the YE like to blame all societies problem on something. They've picked Old Earthers as the problem for all of society's problems because so many vocal OE people are not religious, it's an easy target.

Is YE short for Young Earth? If so, please define a young Earth.
 
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