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Neanderthals, Dinosaurs?

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I hope you don't use it again. I cringe when I see it used at all. Despite what you listed as meanings it is only used as a derogatory remark usually combined with stupid, ignorant or some other slam. They are generally such sweet, kind, innocent people and don't they have enough to live with? Isn't whats inside them the important thing?
 
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Lets try this again. Please, no page long answers or riddles my brain can't handle them.
Was there anything prior to Genesis?
Were there Dinosaurs and where do they fit in?
Were there Neanderthals and where do they fit in?
No more polls, I just mess them up.
Thanks for giving your opinion.

Adam and Eve were re-made into the image of God.
The natural man does not count as a child of God.
Man was not created in a "flash".
 
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Why did God do it that way. Why not? The entity that we define as God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, immortal and has no beginning and no end. Because of the infinite nature of the entity that is all these characteristics why create the Earth in 6 days? Why not. Anyone who claims a 6 literal 24 hour days created universe is impossible; I say their concept of God is too small.

Not that it's impossible. Just that the language of "creation"
used is a long process, not a flash-of-light-type of creation.

Jesus turned water into wine. He didn't make jugs of wine just appear.
Jesus fixed broken eyes and limbs and spirits. He did just flash believers into existence.

That's how Jesus works. That's his Modus Operandi. His M.O.
 
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Anyone should be sure to put their faith not in theories people invent about Genesis 1 through 3, but instead in Christ Jesus -- your only hope and the only basis of hope and salvation you can have -- and as He said, to build your house of faith on the rock of hearing and doing as He said (not as people speculate about Genesis, etc.) -- Matthew 7:24-27.

If you do, you won't worry much about speculation A or speculation B, or C, D, E...G...Z29...people have invented about Genesis chapters 1 through 3.
I agree with this.. But, my argument is "How can trust in scripture in one part of the bible, to save your soul, and deny the solid truth of another part based on the assumptions of men?

If anything, the gospel and the life of Christ, has more supernatural events and miracles than any other scripture. We trust in it for our eternal life and quibble over the six literal days as if God somehow didn't mean what he said there.

Science could more easily deny the things Jesus did... outright.
 
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Not that it's impossible. Just that the language of "creation"
used is a long process, not a flash-of-light-type of creation.

Jesus turned water into wine. He didn't make jugs of wine just appear.
Jesus fixed broken eyes and limbs and spirits. He did just flash believers into existence.

That's how Jesus works. That's his Modus Operandi. His M.O.

Not according to Scripture. It's pretty clear; there's "evening and morning" and day 1, 2, 3, 4 etc.

And as far a Jesus goes, there were very much time He brought into existence things that weren't there. In order to turn water into wine you have to "invent" carbon. To take 2 fish and 3 loaves of bread and feed 5 thousand people requires an act of creation. To raise the dead requires an act of creation. Especially when they've been dead 3 days! That also requires the power to overcome entropy, which in fact requires the ability to control the "backwards / forwards" motion of time as it relates to the body of that individual but no one else in the surrounding environment. To instantaneously heal a disease, a dysfunctional limb or paralyzed body requires and act of creation. He said to the Pharisees that God could raise up children of Abraham out of these stones. That was a literal possibility to "flash believers into existence".
 
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To Retard means, your retarded, or you are being a retarded, when/and/or you are "held back", or are holding back something, like forward progress, etc... Or that's what I meant anyway...

Like you'd retard the timing on an engine, ect... Your "set back", or are being or actually are "held back" (from some kind of knowing, etc) or are going a little slow or slower, or are slower, etc...

It does not have to be derogatory, it is just simply the right term to describe it...

And I don't know any other kind of word to actually describe it, etc...

Here is the defintion and maybe that will give you a general idea of what I meant or really mean...?

re·tard

verb
/riˈtärd/
  1. 1.
    delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
    "our progress was retarded by unforeseen difficulties"
    synonyms: delay, slow down, slow up, hold back, set back, keep back, hold up, postpone, put back, detain, decelerate, put a brake on;
    hinder, hamper, obstruct, inhibit, impede, handicap, hamstring, curb, check, restrain, restrict, arrest, interfere with, interrupt, encumber, clog;
    informalthrow a spanner in the works of;
    informalthrow a monkey wrench in the works of;
    literarystay, trammel, cumber
    "the worst thing that governments can do is to retard this admittedly painful process"

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LOL to have me believe that saying "you're a retard" or "you're retarded".... was in anyway meant in a kind way to say that they are "set back" or held back" ...... is a joke.

At least man up to the fact that you were out of line an down right condescending.
 
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Not according to Scripture. It's pretty clear; there's "evening and morning" and day 1, 2, 3, 4 etc.

It's much more clear that the sun and stars were not created until day three.
So "evening and morning" means something else.
And God is in Heaven, so time is not 24 hours like on a spinning planet.

Jesus has always created through transformation. That's just how he creates.
 
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I took Geology in college, and have been taught evolutionary theory, and just see or rather "think" that it is true and pretty accurate, for the most part anyway... but I also fully believe in the Bible also, so I think it is ours, or yours and mine's perceptions or interpretations that have to be off is all...

God Bless!
Were you taught about "Lucy", "Piltown man" , Haeckel's embryo's, "Nebraska man", "Minnesota Ice man"?
Or the fact that they were all fabricated frauds?

The sad part is that Haeckel's embryo's are still in many text books.

The science of academia is pro evolution. Schools today are never going to teach anything but.

So, if I went to school and was fed all this stuff, over and over... I would tend to believe it too.... If I was not a Christian.

There are so many areas where evolution takes great leaps of assumption and speculation. Not to mention the impossibilities of DNA randomly occurring that it requires more faith than belief in God's creation.. It is actually a religion and is protected as such.
 
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It's much more clear that the sun and stars were not created until day three.
So "evening and morning" means something else.
And God is in Heaven, so time is not 24 hours like on a spinning planet.

Jesus has always created through transformation. That's just how he creates.
Why do you need sun and stars to have a time period of 24 hours. This amount of time is not dependent on the existence of these heavenly light sources.

If you travel one mile in one minute.. that's moving 60 mph.
If you don't have a speedometer to tell you.. it does not mean that you are not moving at that velocity.

Suddenly installing a speedometer does not somehow make you now traveling at 60 MPH..

Same with the sun, moon and stars... these just indicate the already stable passing of time.
 
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You can't delete your post, but you can delete the sentences containing retarded, delusional, idiot, and stupid.

Thank you for sincerely apologizing.

BTW I am not medically retarded. My IQ is probably around 100.
That's smart for a cat.
 
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It still doesn't answer my question to the other poster. Who was Adams wife if it wasn't Eve. That changes everything. Adam was born not created an Eve wasn't his wife and was not created from his rib, whew!!
Someone stated that Adam had a mother... any word on where that came from..
Also, Adam was "formed" by God's hands and his life was breathed into him by God's own breath...

Think about that.... God gave Adam life with His own breath... that life was transferred to Eve from Adams living rib.. Therefore.....the breath that you and I are breathing, is a continuation of the breath that God breathed into the man that God formed in His image with His own hands. AMAZING.
 
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Why do you need sun and stars to have a time period of 24 hours. This amount of time is not dependent on the existence of these heavenly light sources.

God does not experience time.

As I stated, all the "Creation" words refer to transformation. Do the research.







 
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Adam and Eve were re-made into the image of God.
The natural man does not count as a child of God.
Man was not created in a "flash".
You are right. Man was not created in a flash.. He was lovingly formed with God's own hands and then.... He breathed life into him. Awesome.... Now that is attention to detail when creating something in your own image.
 
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They have all been explained. Just look them up one at a time.
How do you explain that the hammer handle was already turning into coal.
How do you explain that the metal is of such a metallurgy that we cannot forge it or make the alloy today.


You people use bones found in the ground to paint an entire theory of "evolution"
When someone finds something that contradicts it.. you just "splain" it away.

I am totally aware that we are not going to change each others minds... by the way.
 
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It's much more clear that the sun and stars were not created until day three.
So "evening and morning" means something else.
And God is in Heaven, so time is not 24 hours like on a spinning planet.

Jesus has always created through transformation. That's just how he creates.
Jesus did not always create through transformation... That is an unsupported concept.

Water, instantly to wine.. not sugars and carbohydrates being consumed by yeast which gave off an waste product of ethanol... Jesus just had water...

Jesus created much food from two fish and five loaves... instantly as He broke it up.
 
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It's much more clear that the sun and stars were not created until day three.
So "evening and morning" means something else.
And God is in Heaven, so time is not 24 hours like on a spinning planet.

Jesus has always created through transformation. That's just how he creates.

Right on the first day; God calls the light "day" and the darkness "night". This happened before the sun and the moon were created and this I believe was God setting up "time" as we understand time.

Now when He creates the sun and the moon, He says they are created to be "time keepers".

So no, I don't believe "evening and morning" means something else. That would be inconsistent with our current understanding of time and since no where in Scripture does it ever say God changed what "evening and morning" meant; we can make the reasonable claim that "evening and morning" means a 24 hour day.
 
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God does not experience time.

As I stated, all the "Creation" words refer to transformation. Do the research.






You are right... God is outside of the confines of our world. However, the earth was always held within those confines.... so.... a day was always a day even before the sun, moon and stars.
 
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