My Yigo Challenge

[AV1611VET]

No, because I have no reason to dogmatically believe it is not true.

So it all boils down to what you believe, doesn't it?

 

[Chany]

So it all boils down to what you believe, doesn't it?

Sorry, let me rephrase, I should not have included "dogmatic". I have no reason to believe the board lacks a check-mate in three.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry, let me rephrase, I should not have included "dogmatic". I have no reason to believe the board lacks a check-mate in three.

Who is more apt to find it?

Someone who denies a mate-in-three exists; or someone who believes a mate-in-three exists?

 

[Chany]

Who is more apt to find it?

Someone who denies a mate-in-three exists; or someone who believes a mate-in-three exists?

The believer in this case. Though I don't get the point; no logical person would assume disbelief without reason. People wouldn't deny its existence uneless dogmatically.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Who is more apt to find it?

The one who looks for it.

 

[morningstar2651]

Um, Yigo does exist, it is a place.

I stand corrected.

Now to revise my previous statement with the understanding that Yigo is a single physical location...

Answer: Belief/disbelief in the existence of Yigo is not an indicator of how likely one is to find Yigo. This gets the cause and effect backwards - the likelihood of finding Yigo affects the probability that the individual believes it exists.

Physical proximity is a much greater predictor that someone will find Yigo. Someone who lives in Salvador, Brazil is far less likely to find Yigo than someone who lives in Dededo, Guam. (Salvador is the nearest city I could find to Yigo's Antipode)

It's better to assume that a claim is false until enough evidence is found to support the truth of the claim. I disbelieved in the existence of Yigo until a fellow poster told me that it is a physical location and not just part of one of AV's schoolboy riddles. I then questioned my disbelief and went to Google maps and was presented with a physical location in Guam, as well as photographic evidence from people who have been there.

To use a legal example, is it better to:

• Assume the prosecution's claim is false until proven true? (innocent until proven guilty)
• Assume the prosecution's claim is true until proven false? (guilty until proven innocent)

There were 4.7 murders in the US per 100,000 people in 2012. If we assume a 1:1 victim to offender ratio (which isn't perfectly accurate but is reasonably close), then we have a 0.0047% chance that any individual in the population is a murderer. We should begin by assuming a 99.9953% chance of innocence and adjust this probability based on the evidence presented during the trial. If the prosecution has no evidence, then the defendant is probably innocent.

 

[Michael]

I stand corrected.

Now to revise my previous statement with the understanding that Yigo is a single physical location...

Answer: Belief/disbelief in the existence of Yigo is not an indicator of how likely one is to find Yigo.

I would argue the opposite is true, particularly as it relates to theoretical physics.

 

[lesliedellow]

I would argue the opposite is true, particularly as it relates to theoretical physics.

I don't believe it. He even managed to drag EU into this.

 

[Michael]

I don't believe it. He even managed to drag EU into this.

*I* did?

 

[AV1611VET]

I'd hate to see where this thread would be if I would have called it: My Talofofo Falls Challenge.

Probably some wouldn't know Talofofo from a taotaomona -- but they certainly wouldn't act like it.

 

[Michael]

I'd hate to see where this thread would be if I would have called it: My Talofofo Falls Challenge.

Probably some wouldn't know Talofofo from a taotaomona -- but they certainly wouldn't act like it.

IMO this is one of your better "challenges" by the way. It does bring up a very interesting and relevant point about *intent* and *effort* and it's effect on the *outcome*.

 

[AV1611VET]

IMO this is one of your better "challenges" by the way. It does bring up a very interesting and relevant point about *intent* and *effort* and it's effect on the *outcome*.

Thank you, sir!

 

[HitchSlap]

IMO this is one of your better "challenges" by the way. It does bring up a very interesting and relevant point about *intent* and *effort* and it's effect on the *outcome*.

Exactly. As in, if my intent was to disprove the existence of an as yet undiscovered bipedal hominid living in the Pacific Northwest, I would exhaust every effort so I could reasonable and intelligently answer all pertinent questions of the outcome?

 

[AV1611VET]

Exactly. As in, if my intent was to disprove the existence of an as yet undiscovered bipedal hominid living in the Pacific Northwest, I would exhaust every effort so I could reasonable and intelligently answer all pertinent questions of the outcome?

LOL

You guys couldn't handle Waldo and arced and sparked about it; so I make a new thread with Yigo; and what do you do?

You bring up Big Foot!

Solid aurum!

 

[PsychoSarah]

LOL

You guys couldn't handle Waldo and arced and sparked about it; so I make a new thread with Yigo; and what do you do?

You bring up Big Foot!

Solid aurum!

Would it kill you to just say gold?

 

[AV1611VET]

Would it kill you to just say gold?

I try to use big words sometimes to impress people; and it makes me sound like I know what I'm talking about.

But for you? why not?

"Gold" it is!

 

[PsychoSarah]

I try to use big words sometimes to impress people; and it makes me sound like I know what I'm talking about.

But for you? why not?

"Gold" it is!

It makes you sound like a dingus when you use words for that reason

 

[AV1611VET]

It makes you sound like a dingus when you use words for that reason

Oh, sorry!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Oh, sorry!

Don't apologize to me, the only one it hurts is you!

 

[AV1611VET]

Don't apologize to me, the only one it hurts is you!

But what if "gold" is harder to remember than "aurum"?