But they do speak of a passage of time, do they not?
"Age" is a noun, and nouns can be embedded in things; like stones embedded in snowballs.
Adam & Eve had maturity without a history.
They were some 20 - 30 years old when they came into existence.
I'm going to disagree with this.But I'm talking about mature without history.What you're describing is what is called "Apparent Age Creation," and I don't believe in Apparent Age Creation, as Apparent Age Creation implies it only looks old.
In Embedded Age Creation, it looks old because it is old.Correct.That is correct.
That is why I don't include them.
At the end of the Creation Week, there were no fossils, or anything else you mentioned.
Merriam-Webster has nine definitions of "old," and four definitions of "age."Age is a quality that something can have referring to how much time it's been in existence. That would be just as impossible to embed in something else as an abstract concept would be.
That is correct.MadotsukiInTheNexus said:They may have had a level of maturity expected from something 20-30 years old, but that doesn't make them actually that old.
I agree.MadotsukiInTheNexus said:If they've just come into existence, they're a few seconds old even if they're adults.
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Adam was 30 years old physically; one day old existentially.
That is correct.Then he was one day old and apoeared to be 30 years old.
I disagree.VirOptimus said:No definition of age makes him 30 years old under those premises.
Miracles could though.VirOptimus said:Not even magic.
That is correct.
He was one day old existentially, and appeared to be 30 years old physically because he was 30 years old physically.I disagree.Miracles could though.
Magic can take a hike.
I suppose you don't think He can be the triune Godhead either, do you?
After all, it would violate Madotsuki's worldly logic, wouldn't it?
Looks like cause-and-effect in action.No, under those circumstances he is one day old, period.
There is no difference between magic or miracles. So no, miracles cant either.
I dont belive in god(s) so I dont believe in godheads either.
Looks like cause-and-effect in action.
Effect: There is no difference between magic or miracles.
Cause: I don't believe in god(s).
No wonder you think he was 'one day old period.'
I'm surprised you believe in him at all.
Why do you disrespect them, then?Terms and words have meanings.
Why do you disrespect them, then?
Such as calling miracles: "magic"?
Do you do the same with the Joshua passage? or does the Bible speak of geocentrism there?I dont disrespect. I use the appropriate words.
Do you do the same with the Joshua passage? or does the Bible speak of geocentrism there?
Cause-and-effect will cause confusion and an inability to understand.I dont care about the bible.
Cause-and-effect will cause confusion and an inability to understand.
I don't care about science when it comes to using it against the Bible; and I hope my ignorance of science is noticeable.
I wear my ignorance like a badge.
Merriam-Webster has nine definitions of "old," and four definitions of "age."
Adam was 30 years old physically; one day old existentially.
After all, it would violate Madotsuki's worldly logic, wouldn't it?
And being ignorant of spiritual reality is even foolisher.Being ignorant about physical reality is foolish.
That's their prerogative.A lot of people with a variety of different beliefs are going to disagree with it.
And being ignorant of spiritual reality is even foolisher.
I believe in science.I dont believe in a spiritual reality.
I believe in science.