My Problem with the Invisible Church

[LittleLambofJesus]

LOL love it! A gate wif attitude

Tis made of iron

NKJV) Acts 12:10 When they were past the first and the second guard posts, they came to the iron gate that leads to the city, which opened to them of its own accord;
and they went out and went down one street, and immediately the angel departed from him.

Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV
(iron)
occurs 101 times in 89 verses in the KJV

YouTube - Iron Man Music Video - I am Iron Man - Best

 

[Markus6]

Altars [obviously]

I'm afraid while this might be obvious to you it will need a bit of explaining to many of us...

 

[brinny]

Awesome LLOJ!!!! I haven't seen it yet.....plan to

*i've often wondered about the interpretations of "iron" in the Bible.....such as "iron gate", etc.*

 

[Rdr Iakovos]

I couldn't make much out it and I couldn't find your denomination mentioned there. Just copy/paste this visible church to here. If it's visible and physical, that should be very simple. Just give a post - and show us the Church - so we can see it

"Though having eyes, they could not see."

 

[CaliforniaJosiah]

"Though having eyes, they could not see."

If it's physical and visible, as you stress - post the picture of it here. Then we'll know.

Or maybe the church is NEITHER?




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[sunlover1]

What Churches should have to run efficiently and conducive to the members.

Altars [obviously]
Space [to congregate]
Doctrines [to have truth]
Leaders [as Christ chose 12]

IF these things are repulsive, and anarchy sounds better - and your comfortable with confusion and meanderings...then dont join a Church which is organized and knows what she has always believed.

What if you aren't into anarchy OR alters?

 

[ivebeenshown]

If it's physical and visible, as you stress - post the picture of it here. Then we'll know.

Or maybe the church is NEITHER?

Is one able to capture the entirety of (for instance) the United States in one photograph? Certainly not. Is it visible? Certainly.

 

[Stryder06]

Is one able to capture the entirety of (for instance) the United States in one photograph? Certainly not. Is it visible? Certainly.

About the USA > Travel > The States & Territories

 

[ivebeenshown]

About the USA > Travel > The States & Territories

But what about the embassies?

I mean... the 'invisible Church' idea posits that only the wheat makes up the Church, but then what about the tares?

 

[Stryder06]

But what about the embassies?

I mean... the 'invisible Church' idea posits that only the wheat makes up the Church, but then what about the tares?

Embassies does not the united stats make. You said "You can't see the united states" That's not true. If I'm not mistaken, the question was for you to show a picture of the one true church. That should be simple if it exists as a single physical entity.

 

[ivebeenshown]

You said "You can't see the united states" That's not true.

For one who often brings up how Satan twisted God's words, you could at least get mine right. "Is it (the USA) visible? Certainly."

If I'm not mistaken, the question was for you to show a picture of the one true church. That should be simple if it exists as a single physical entity.

McDonald's exists as a single physical entity, but it has stores and locations across the world. I could hop in my handy space shuttle and snap a pic of the globe for you, but that would just be cheesy.

 

[brinny]

reeeeally gets ya to thinkin', doesn't it?

the Church, is the Bride of Christ......this is you, and you, and you, and me......and ev'ry believer who is sold out heart and soul to the One Who gave Himself for us....the Bridegroom Himself....Jesus the Christ, the only begotten Son of the living God, the God of the living.

We are the Church.

 

[Stryder06]

For one who often brings up how Satan twisted God's words, you could at least get mine right. "Is it (the USA) visible? Certainly."

Where did I twist your words? I may have omitted a few words, but the message was the same. If I twisted something you said forgive me and please indicate what part of my explanation did the twisting so that I may fix it accordingly.

McDonald's exists as a single physical entity, but it has stores and locations across the world. I could hop in my handy space shuttle and snap a pic of the globe for you, but that would just be cheesy.

Indeed, but if you said McDonalds is the place to buy your burger, and I said, "Show me a picture that I may know" I'm certain your response would be be swift and include something with golden arches

 

[11822]

It's invisible. I can't see it.

Jesus said where we are He is also. I don't see Him yet He is the head of the church. Hes the invisible head of the invisible church.

 

[JacktheCatholic]

Jesus said where we are He is also. I don't see Him yet He is the head of the church. Hes the invisible head of the invisible church.

Amen!

Again, why I believe in the visible and invisible. The Body of Christ are all those in union with Him and yet also as a physical representation there has always been weekly and daily gatherings of Christians for the Eucharist.

 

[11822]

I would say the true church is what God sees and is invisible in a sense because we cannot see at first glance who has the seal or who has their name written in the book of life. It disturbs me to think that Jesus says not everyone who calls Him lord will enter Heaven.

 

[ivebeenshown]

Where did I twist your words? I may have omitted a few words, but the message was the same. If I twisted something you said forgive me and please indicate what part of my explanation did the twisting so that I may fix it accordingly.

I said the USA is certainly visible; you said that I said otherwise.

Indeed, but if you said McDonalds is the place to buy your burger, and I said, "Show me a picture that I may know" I'm certain your response would be be swift and include something with golden arches

Ah, well, I could show you one location, but that would not be in itself the entire entity.

 

[JacktheCatholic]

I would say the true church is what God sees and is invisible in a sense because we cannot see at first glance who has the seal or who has their name written in the book of life. It disturbs me to think that Jesus says not everyone who calls Him lord will enter Heaven.

Yes, I have reflected on that too. Thinking that at Judgment Day there will a be great multitude that call Jesus Lord as though they are expecting to go to Heaven and Jesus says "I do not know you". I mean Ouch! Did you feed the hungry or clothe the poor and so on...

Definately something to contemplate and when you do it makes you realize that we have to carry a Cross too and follow Him.

 

[11822]

Yes, I have reflected on that too. Thinking that at Judgment Day there will a be great multitude that call Jesus Lord as though they are expecting to go to Heaven and Jesus says "I do not know you". I mean Ouch! Did you feed the hungry or clothe the poor and so on...

Definately something to contemplate and when you do it makes you realize that we have to carry a Cross too and follow Him.

I agree. Maybe Christ will not only say you didn't clothe me or feed me, but He may also say to them "you didn't forgive me".

 

[11822]

It actually sounds like Hes also talking to people who don't lack good works, but them who justify themselves by works and not faith maybe. But faith without works is dead. Its like a two edged sword or something.