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The Rapture:
(the Pre-Tribulation Rapture):
(The Translation of the Saints):

Description of the Rapture:

• 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.​

•1 Corinthians 15:51-53

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.​

The Dead in Christ Are Taken From Abraham's Bosom By the Rapture:
(Both the Old Testament Saints and Church Age Saints in Abraham's Bosom Are Called to Rise To Meet the Lord in the Air. For in the Rapture: The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First):

• Zechariah 9:11 NIV and 1 Thessalonians 4:16

For... I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit. And with the trump of God... the dead in Christ shall rise first:​

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Commentary - Zechariah 9:11 and Thessalonians 4:16

Zechariah 9:11 is a prophetic Old Testament passage about the taking up of the saints from Abraham's bosom.

What is Abraham's Bosom?

Abraham's bosom (which is also known as Paradise) is described in Luke 16:19-31. It is a real place of comfort within the spirit realm; A temporary paradise where the saint's soul and spiritual body resides consciously to be with the Lord when their physical body dies (Genesis 3:19) (Ecclesiastes 12:7) (Luke 16:22). This paradise is located within the realm of the dead below the Earth (Which is also known as Sheol or Hades) which is separated by a great gulf from the fiery place of punishment known as "Torments" or what is commonly known as "Hell" (Luke 16:26) (Luke 16:23). It will be a place where the saint will be comforted (Luke 16:25). But, why is Abraham's bosom also called Paradise? Well, on the day of Christ's sacrifice, he had told the thief on the cross that: "This day, you shall be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). But yet, Scripture tells us that when Christ died, he was in the heart of the Earth for three days and three nights, though (Matthew 12:40). So this leads us to conclude that during Christ's three days within the grave before His resurrection, He was with the thief in Abraham's bosom which is located in the heart (or the center) of the Earth.

Does Abraham's Bosom Still Exist Within the Church Age Today?

The real life story (or event) told by Jesus within Luke 16:19-31 took place during the time of Moses (Luke 16:29). However, the important question that must be asked is: Does Abraham's Bosom still exist today, though?

Well, yes, I believe according to the plain reading of Scripture that Abraham's bosom still exists today within our present church age. For all true saints who die in Christ right now will go to be with the Lord down in Abraham's bosom and then later they will be taken up into Heaven when the Rapture occurs. For how else will the dead in Christ rise first? See 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Do the dead in Christ rise to go to Heaven and then come back down somewhere temporarily to be risen again at the Rapture? Do they rise in Christ twice spiritually? If so, where is the verse that explains this?

In fact, many Christians today who are well versed in studying the Scriptures believe they go straight to Heaven; This is a common misconception because they interpret the ascension of Christ mentioned in Ephesians 4:8 as the time of when the saints in Abraham's bosom are being taken to Heaven.

Ephesians 4:8 - "When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive."

In other words, based on this passage, most Christians believe that Christ led those saints who were in captivity in Abraham's bosom captive up into Heaven when Christ ascended. However, is this what Ephesians 4:8 is talking about, though?

No, actually it is actually talking about how when Christ ascended, He bound the enemy or the powers of darkness. How so? Well, our first clue to this fact is to look at the parallel reference of this passage located in Judges chapter five.

Judges 5:12 - "Awake, awake, Deborah: awake, awake, utter a song: arise, Barak, and lead your captives captive, you son of Abinoam."

Now, without boring you with all the details, to make a long story short, if you were to read Judged chapter 5, you would find out that Barak was leading his enemies captive and not his friends. To put it to you another way, the moment a true Christian is born again and then dedicates their life to Christ, they are then no longer Christ's enemy. For those in Abraham's bosom are God's elect or chosen who had put their trust in God to redeem them of their sins (See Luke 16:19-31).

As a matter of fact, Gill's Exposition of the Bible says this...
"He led captivity captive; which is expressive of Christ's conquests and triumph over sin, Satan, the world, death, and the grave; and indeed, every spiritual enemy of his and his people, especially the devil, who leads men captive at his will, and is therefore called captivity, and his principalities and powers, whom Christ has spoiled and triumphed over;"And 2nd Timothy says this...

2 Timothy 2:26 - "And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. For when Christ had raised from the dead he put all things including the principalities and powers of darkness under his feet."

Therefore, the word "captivity" is a reference to Satan leading people captive to his will and lets us know the true context or meaning behind Ephesians 4:8.

For when Christ had risen from the dead, He put all things including the principalities and powers of darkness under his feet.

Ephesians 1:20-23 "Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all."

Those Who Are Alive in Christ on the Earth Are Then Raptured:
(The Church Age Saints Are Called to Rise To Meet the Lord in the Air. This is Similar to the Translation of Enoch whereby He did Not Die):

• 1 Thessalonians 4:17

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air.​

Clues Concerning the Rapture:

• John 14:3

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.​

• Matthew 25:10

And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

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We are taught to look for that blessed hope and appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

• Titus 2:13

"Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;"
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Promise of the Rapture:
(A Deliverance of the Wrath to Come):

• 1 Thessalonians 1:10

"And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come."​

• 1 Thessalonians 5:9

"For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,"
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The Rapture is a New Mystery Revealed:

• 1 Corinthians 15:51

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,"
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Admonishes about being ready for the Rapture:
(In order to miss out on the 7 Year Tribulation):

• Matthew 25:13

"Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."

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We are told to pray so that we may escape all these things mentioned within the Tribulation:

• Luke 21:36

"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."
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What things shall we escape if we pray?

• Luke 21:10

"Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom"
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• Revelation 6:4

"...and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another..."
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• Luke 21:11

"And great earthquakes..."
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• Revelation 6:12

"...and, lo, there was a great earthquake;"
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• Luke 21:11

"...and famines..."
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• Revelation 6:5-6

"And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."​

Very impressive work. I read all of it. I was most impressed that you were able to conclude that there will be a pre trib rapture and a gathering after that.

Have you considered that the gathering will be a gathering from heaven and earth.
Mark 13
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

It will be the Church that is gathered from heaven (raptured pre trib) and it will be the 12 tribes that are gathered from the earth. There will be two harvests, as you say................the fig tree has two harvests.

Hosea 9
10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

Israel served other Gods...........so they would not be the first harvest.

Jer 8
20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

Another thing you could consider. You are correct that the seals are the tribulation. The tribulation is over when the gathering of Matt 24 (Rev 6) occurs. The 70th week is over then. You are saying that the gathering is at the middle of the week. I don't believe that is correct. The gathering is at the end of the week............and then the wrath of God begins. It is the nation of Israel that goes through the wrath of God.........in a place of protection. The Church is gathered from heaven and the 12 tribes are gatherer from the earth. They (the twelve tribes) are instructed to look up......your redemption draws nigh. All of the Elect go to heaven for the marriage supper and return to earth with the Lord after the marriage supper.

Just something for your to consider. Really enjoyed reading your hard work. Thanks...............

 

[Marilyn C]

My New End Times Chronology:
(A Chronology in Honor of both:
A Pre-Trib Rapture and a Mid-Trib Gathering of the Elect):

Summary:

1. Pre-Trib Rapture.
2. 1st Half of 7 Year Tribulation Part 1, and Part 2.
3. 2nd Half of 7 Year Tribulation Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, and Part 4.
4. Earth is Purified by Fire & Satan is Bound.
5. The Millennium: the 1st of the Resurrections, 1,000 Year Reign of Christ, & the Final Last Battle.
6. Old Earth Passes Away and A New Earth Appears.
7. New Jerusalem Comes Down From Out of Heaven.
8. The Final Resurrections and the Judgment.
9. The Saints Witness the Lifeless Remains of the Wicked.
10. The End - The Saints Live with God for All Eternity.

Hi Bible Highlighter,

I agree with much of what you posted however there are a few details that I would like to discuss with you. The first one regards number 4. Earth is Purified by fire.

I believe you are misunderstanding the Days of God`s prophetic calendar.

....I....(Day of Christ).....I.......(Day of the Lord).......I......(Day of God).........>

Day of Christ - from ascension to catching away,
Day of the Lord - from tribulation, through the millennium, (& finally earth purified by fire)
Day of God - New heavens and New Earth and on into eternity.

The purifying does NOT occur after the tribulation (but after the millennium) for -

`This water flows towards the eastern region, goes down into the valley, and enters the sea. When it reaches the sea its waters are healed. And it shall be that every living thing that moves, wherever the rivers go, will live.` (Ez. 47: 8)

This is the living water that flows from under Jerusalem when the Lord splits the Mount of Olives when His feet touches it. This purification by water is after the tribulation, while the final purification will be by fire at the end of the Millennium before the New heavens and New Earth.

regards, Marilyn.

 

[Marilyn C]

The Rapture:
(the Pre-Tribulation Rapture):
(The Translation of the Saints):

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The Dead in Christ Are Taken From Abraham's Bosom By the Rapture:
(Both the Old Testament Saints and Church Age Saints in Abraham's Bosom Are Called to Rise To Meet the Lord in the Air. For in the Rapture: The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First):

• Zechariah 9:11 NIV and 1 Thessalonians 4:16

For... I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit. And with the trump of God... the dead in Christ shall rise first:​

Hi Bible Highlighter,

This is my second point for discussion with you. The Old Testament saints are in the General Assembly in the angelic realm, (3rd heaven) and are awaiting their city which was promised them.

`...you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, to the General Assembly and Church of the first-born who are registered in heaven, to God the judge of all, TO THE SPIRITS OF JUST MEN MADE PERFECT, to Jesus...` (Heb. 12: 22 & 23)

These `just men, (& women)` are those of the OT saints.

`But now they desire a better, that is a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.` (Heb. 11: 16)

Only the Body of Christ is IN Christ and has a different inheritance - with Christ on His throne.

`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.` (Rev. 3: 21)

Marilyn.

 

[iamlamad]

My New End Times Chronology:
(A Chronology in Honor of both:
A Pre-Trib Rapture and a Mid-Trib Gathering of the Elect):

Summary:

1. Pre-Trib Rapture.
2. 1st Half of 7 Year Tribulation Part 1, and Part 2.
3. 2nd Half of 7 Year Tribulation Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, and Part 4.
4. Earth is Purified by Fire & Satan is Bound.
5. The Millennium: the 1st of the Resurrections, 1,000 Year Reign of Christ, & the Final Last Battle.
6. Old Earth Passes Away and A New Earth Appears.
7. New Jerusalem Comes Down From Out of Heaven.
8. The Final Resurrections and the Judgment.
9. The Saints Witness the Lifeless Remains of the Wicked.
10. The End - The Saints Live with God for All Eternity.

Commentaries:

1. The 70th Week of Daniel.
2. Explaining Why "One Day = One Year" in the 70 Weeks of Daniel.
3. Explaining the 70 Weeks from Daniel 9:24-27.
4. When does the "Day of the Lord" or the "Day of Wrath" begin?
5. Figuring out the Timing of the Gathering: Comparing Revelation 19 with the Olivet Discourse.
6. Marriage Supper is a Battle & Not a Literal Feast.
7. Why is there is a "Pre-Trib Rapture," and a "Mid-Trib Gathering?"
8. The 8 Kings.
9. Commentary Coming Soon.
10. Commentary Coming Soon.


Side Note 1:

This thread is for discussion for both Pre-Trib Rapture proponents, and Mid-Trib Rapture proponents (Note: Please take note that I call the Mid Trib Rapture as a Mid-Trib Gathering and not as a Rapture). Anyways, if you are not Pre-Trib, or Mid-Trib, please do not post within this thread. This thread is for mutual edification and further study and not for endless debate. While I do not mind the sharing of our differences on Eschatology, I do not want this thread to be turned into a heated discussion.

Side Note 2:

Oh, and this End Times Chronology is not meant to be something that is 100% fact (like the teaching of Soteriology). It may not be precise in it's arrangement on everything. However, this chronology is based on other men of God's study on the End Times on what will happen in the future before Christ returns. I have prayed and re-arranged my list many times based on the light of what Scripture says over the years. I can only pray that others will find my End Times Chronology and comments edifying to them in following and loving our Lord Jesus Christ.

Blessings to you all in the Lord.

You have made this FAR more complicated that it really is, and in fact, you are simply mistaken on timing.

God "marked" (His word not mine) the entire 70th week for easy finding: the 7th seal begins the week, the 7th trumpet marks the midpoint and the 7th vial ends the week.
It is easy to see then that the trumpets make up the first half of the week and the vials are in the second half.

Many people have preconceived ideas that the week begins with the first seal, but that is totally wrong.

The purpose of chapters 4 and 5 are to set the context and timing of the first seal. In chapter 5 John saw Jesus ascended into the throne room and send the Holy Spirit down. We all know this happened: the Holy Spirit was sent down when Jesus ascended. John, in vision form looking back in time SAW this event. Why would John record the Holy Spirit being sent down in his 95 AD writing? It was the Holy Spirit setting the timing of the first seal.

You see, God had a problem: He wanted to introduce John to the book with 7 seals, but wanted to start this story while the book was still in the hands of the Father. Out of necessity then, God had to somehow show John in the vision that what he was seeing was history, but future. How did God accomplish this?

God showed John a throne room with Jesus MISSING: not seen at the right hand of the father where John would have expected to see Him.

God showed John that the Holy Spirit was there IN the throne room, when John would have expected Him to be already sent down.

Finally, God showed John a search for one worthy to take the book - but that first search ended in failure - when John would have expected Jesus to have been found.

WHEN was there a time when Jesus would not have been at the right hand of the Father? of course, while He was on the earth.

WHEN would the Holy Spirit have been in the throne room? Of course, before Jesus ascended to send Him down.

WHEN would Jesus have NOT been found worthy to take the book? That would be before He died and rose again.

Next, God showed John that Jesus WAS suddenly found worthy - which shows us that Jesus had just risen from the dead to become worthy to take the book.

Finally, God showed John the moment Jesus ascended back into the throne room - right after telling Mary not to touch Him for He had not yet ascended.

All this was to set the timing of the first seal as to the moment Jesus ascended and got the book into His own hands.

The first seal then was opened in 32 AD. It COULD NOT POSSIBLY represent the Beast. It could not possibly be the start of the 70th week. What then is the first seal? It is the CHURCH taking the GOSPEL to the nations. This is confirmed by at least one commentary.

Seals 2 through 4 are to represent the devil's attempts to stop the advance of the gospel.
Seal 5 is the martyrs of the church age. There will still be church age martyrs being added to this number UNTIL the pretrib rapture ends the church age.

Then the next event - the 6th seal - starts the DAY of wrath of God on earth.

You put a LOT of time into this! Blessings!

 

[Douggg]

God "marked" (His word not mine) the entire 70th week for easy finding: the 7th seal begins the week, the 7th trumpet marks the midpoint and the 7th vial ends the week.

7th seal - entry into middle of the 7 years.
7th trumpet - just after the midpoint.
7th vial - at the very end of the 7 years.

 

[Timtofly]

No event in history has happened with the the breaking of the 3rd or 4th seal. There was no great time of famine (3rd seal) after Jesus's time, or a time in history (after Christ) where a 4th of the world were killed. Also, Jesus is never described as having a bow in his hand. Esau is said to have a bow (in Scripture) and he sold his birthright. Nimrod was said to be a great hunter in Genesis 10 to the leading up to the event at the Tower Babel. Babylon is a key piece in the final end game within Revelation. Babylon are the bad guys and not the good guys.

There is no Antichrist in the seals either. The seals deal with the church. Those sealed in the Lamb's book of life. Nothing else, and Satan is exposed in the 6th seal.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

There is no Antichrist in the seals either. The seals deal with the church. Those sealed in the Lamb's book of life. Nothing else, and Satan is exposed in the 6th seal.

The Church will be removed before the Seals are opened.
I thought this was a Pre-trib forum??

 

[Timtofly]

The Church will be removed before the Seals are opened.
I thought this was a Pre-trib forum??

Did you read the rules of this forum? Did you read the first post of this thread? Some here think the seals were opened in the 1st century. This forum I doubt has any one who agrees 100% unless they are the same person under different log ins.

 

[iamlamad]

7th seal - entry into the 7 years.
7th trumpet - just after the midpoint.
7th vial - at the very end of the 7 years.

Amazing: we are very close!

 

[iamlamad]

The Church will be removed before the Seals are opened.
I thought this was a Pre-trib forum??

The Church will be removed before the Seals are opened. This is myth. Go back and study chapters 4 & 5 that show us WHEN Jesus got the book into His hands: it was right after He ascended and sent the Holy Spirit down.

Next, discover the parallels between Jesus' discourse and the first seals - and note well, Jesus said "the end is not yet." He did not begin to speak of end times until verse 14 in Matthew 24.

 

[iamlamad]

There is no Antichrist in the seals either. The seals deal with the church. Those sealed in the Lamb's book of life. Nothing else, and Satan is exposed in the 6th seal.

There is no Antichrist in the seals either. Brilliant! Truth!

 

[ItIsFinished!]

There is no Antichrist in the seals either. Brilliant! Truth!

Yes there is . He is the first seal that is opened.
The rider on the white horse with a bow is the Anti-Christ . Rev. 6-2 (KJV).

 

[ItIsFinished!]

The Church will be removed before the Seals are opened. This is myth. Go back and study chapters 4 & 5 that show us WHEN Jesus got the book into His hands: it was right after He ascended and sent the Holy Spirit down.

Next, discover the parallels between Jesus' discourse and the first seals - and note well, Jesus said "the end is not yet." He did not begin to speak of end times until verse 14 in Matthew 24.

The Groom (Christ) removes the Bride (Church) before His divine judgment is handed down to a lost and rejecting world .
The Church is not left to suffer His wrath.

 

[Timtofly]

Yes there is . He is the first seal that is opened.
The rider on the white horse with a bow is the Anti-Christ . Rev. 6-2 (KJV).

Covid19 is the antichrist then. Who knew it would be a virus that unites the world into one body to figure out the cure to what is killing people all over the world?

 

[ItIsFinished!]

Covid19 is the antichrist then. Who knew it would be a virus that unites the world into one body to figure out the cure to what is killing people all over the world?

Covid19 is a virus.
The Anti-christ is a human man infused (if you will) by Satan himself to carry out his Hellish agenda upon earth for 7 years during the 7 year Tribulation with the help of the False Prophet.

 

[Timtofly]

Covid19 is a virus.
The Anti-christ is a human man infused (if you will) by Satan himself to carry out his Hellish agenda upon earth for 7 years during the 7 year Tribulation with the help of the False Prophet.

I know that the Antichrist does not come until Chapter 13. There will be one who is announced as a Messiah, but it is not the white horse in chapter 6. The Rapture happens first.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

I know that the Antichrist does not come until Chapter 13. There will be one who is announced as a Messiah, but it is not the white horse in chapter 6. The Rapture happens first.

Yes the Rapture happens first.
Rev. 6-2 the Anti-christ is shown as riding a white horse with a bow.
The first Seal.

 

[friend of]

I thought the AC was revealed first and then come to the rapture immediately after...

 

[ItIsFinished!]

I thought the AC was revealed first and then come to the rapture immediately after...

No. The Church/Bride are removed before he is revealed.
The whole point of the 7 year Tribulation is to judge a rejecting world, but mainly for God to focus on Israel. The Church is not appointed to the wrath of God. The Church is the Body of Christ . Those in Christ are washed in the blood of Christ.
Those left behind however are not hence the Tribulation. The Church Age/ Age of Grace ends when the Church is removed .

 

[keras]

7th seal - entry into the 7 years.
7th trumpet - just after the midpoint.
7th vial - at the very end of the 7 years.

Please explain why you place the Sixth Seal at Jesus Return? On your 'charts'.
After, or at the Seventh Vial.

I do know that Revelation 19:15 mentions the wrath of God, but in a past tense.
The clincher that the Sixth Seal Day of the Lord's wrath, is some time before the Return, is how Jesus Returns in garments already splashed in blood. Rev 6:13.
Isaiah 63:1-6 describes that terrible Day; plainly not His Return in glory!