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My Human Being Challenge

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People don't "resurrect" once they're dead.
Matthew 22:23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection,
 
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Because you believe so you say he is right?

Yet you don't believe and yet you still say he is right?

The fact that I criticise creationists for the bunkum they talk, doesn't mean I don't believe in the Ressurection.
 
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Do human beings consist of anything other than mass and energy?

Qualitatively...no.


That was two words...are you satisfied?
 
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I'm a little short on technospeak.

I would love to know how I could have asked this question better.

Any ideas?

Human beings can be possessed of certain things...like memories, personalities, intelligence, etc. When broken down to their basest form though...it's all matter and energy.

Hope that clears things up.
 
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The fact that I criticise creationists for the bunkum they talk, doesn't mean I don't believe in the Ressurection.
What "bunkun" would that be?
That there is a GOD who created all things and who will, raise up all men at the end of all things?
 
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Human beings can be possessed of certain things...like memories, personalities, intelligence, etc. When broken down to their basest form though...it's all matter and energy.

Hope that clears things up.
It doesn't clear it up
Not for me

You said qualitatively, human beings possess nothing more than matter and energy?

Yet you went on to explain in your second post things that that well, qualitatively, yes, do make a difference in human beings

An animal, from the outside, can appear to have different outward markings. However, together all these like kind creatures will behave and act the exact same way They will operativeky, do the exact same things as its kind. They will naturally do what they were naturally designed to do
Nothing less (unless they are physically sick) and nothing more

So, how are human beings different but for the very reasons you listed in your second post

Their personalities...Their spirits within them are known to be quite different one from the other.

So qualitatively, yes...humans "possess" more than typical lower created living things
 
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It doesn't clear it up
Not for me

You said qualitatively, human beings possess nothing more than matter and energy?

Yes.

Yet you went on to explain in your second post things that that well, qualitatively, yes, do make a difference in human beings

Did I? Chimps have demonstrated intelligence. All sorts of animals demonstrate memory....even personality.

Your statement here is wrong.


You seem pretty ignorant regarding animals.



Humans may be able to demonstrate a greater depth and variantion of the things I listed...but suggesting an imaginary cause for these things is illogical.
 
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So intelligence dictates a person's demeanor?
 
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Just to clear something else up:

Man can't blame their demeanor on GOD

I Know you think HIM to be an imaginery cause but either way, man can't blame their less than perfect, lack of discipline, unkind, hateful, angry, and any oither bad qualities they may possess on anything and (especially not on GOD) but themselves

These types of conditions, behaviors, are Never wrought in GOD but from our own wills
 
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If I saw a pig behaving unnaturally and just doing something so outside of its character, (like running as a herd off a cliff) I would note something very sick or wrong in that animal

Men behaving unnaturally is not unusual. And because it isn't unusual, we take it with a grain of salt as common, ordinary, okay

Similar to the townspeople s attitude about the man in the tombs who had been healed of many demons
And if you want to say demons are imaginary, what then do you attribute the man's "sickness" on?
 
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What "bunkun" would that be?
That there is a GOD who created all things and who will, raise up all men at the end of all things?

The bunkum that "there is no evidence for evolution," to quote one variation on the theme.
 
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The bunkum that "there is no evidence for evolution," to quote one variation on the theme.
And yet you believe in the resurrection?

You believe that there is a GOD who will raise us up on the last day of the order of all these things in the world

Things which HE ordered in the beginning

(Which you don't believe HE did).
 
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The bunkum that "there is no evidence for evolution," to quote one variation on the theme.
Oh wait!

Who said there is no evidence of "change" (evolution)?
What (I believe) a creationist is saying is that there was a starting point when GOD created all things and man can't go back to that starting point but can only back into what physical evidence they have to draw a conclusion from those things present

How can 6th day creation go back to the first day of creation?
 
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You can say anything you like, but biologists use data available in the present to draw conclusions about the past; just as a historian does when he says that all the available evidence points to Henry VIII having beheaded, or otherwise disposed of, five of his six wives.
 
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