My great great granfather was not a monkey!!!!!

[ImmortalTechnique]

noah never existed... he's a fairy tale... neanderthals did, but no one was around to write fairy tales about them... we weren't writing yet

 

[john crawford]

noah never existed... he's a fairy tale... neanderthals did, but no one was around to write fairy tales about them... we weren't writing yet

Neo-Darwinist fables about human origins in Africa are fairy tales. Who do you think wrote the epic of Gilgamesh if not Neanderthal descents of Neanderthal Noah?

 

[Freodin]

Neo-Darwinist fables about human origins in Africa are fairy tales. Who do you think wrote the epic of Gilgamesh if not Neanderthal descents of Neanderthal Noah?

Homo Sapiens descendents of Homo Sapiens Gilgamesh - who else?

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Neo-Darwinist fables about human origins in Africa are fairy tales.

So, please enlighten us, how do you know "neo-darwinists" wrote fairy tales about human origins, but not the writers of the Bible (hint: you can't use the Bible to justify your answer as that's circular reasoning)?

 

[FSHWILDFIRE]

As an evo bio major..from my one paleoanthropology course I had to take human origins is probably one of the worst parts of the theory! Compared to origins of other species it is missing alot. They paleoanthropologists do not make it very clear to the public there is heated debates and many existing theories, models, and trees of ancestry etc.. It is not as clear cut as it may seem. There is a lot of speculation. Geez, you should see some of the "beef" these people start in seminars and what not. They start calling each other names! It has become a competition of finding the closest ancestor to humans and that is it! Which is why I find biology as a whole (biochem, evolution, molecular, genetics, paleontology etc) a lot better when it comes to zoology and botany. The evidence is usually much more evident. And to answer the question..neo-darwinists have written many fairy tales concerning human origins, many fakes, misleadings and what not. And the about the Bible? ..well its perfectly valid to make such a claim about the bible. However, today archaeologists generally agree that the Bible is historically accurate. In fact much of the archaeology of the Near East has been understood because of the Biblical text. Of course there are those that disagree, and have interpreted the archaeological record and timing/dating differently however as a whole there is much to support the validity and acuracy of the bible historically. Now you may be wondering what does this have to do with the fairy tales? They were accurate in describing settings, should they not have been accurate in what they saw? It's just a speculative question. I't doesn't mean they were accurate but it does beg the question.

 

[TeddyKGB]

The Bible should not be treated as a monolithic work with regard to anthropological accuracy. It is correct about a number of things and ambiguous or incorrect about others.

 

[john crawford]

So, please enlighten us, how do you know "neo-darwinists" wrote fairy tales about human origins, but not the writers of the Bible (hint: you can't use the Bible to justify your answer as that's circular reasoning)?

All right. I can take a hint. Neo-Darwinist monkey theories are adult fish stories and children's fairy tales because whales walk on land, fish magically turn into amphibians, leaping lizards learn to fly like birds and hairy apes are mysteriously transformed into Neo-Darwinists by natural selection and genetic deformities.

 

[john crawford]

As an evo bio major...

Nice post FSHWILDFIRE. I enjoyed reading it.

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

All right. I can take a hint. Neo-Darwinist monkey theories are adult fish stories and children's fairy tales because whales walk on land, fish magically turn into amphibians, leaping lizards learn to fly like birds and hairy apes are mysteriously transformed into Neo-Darwinists by natural selection and genetic deformities.

You completely avoided the point and the question. Try again?

 

[Dannager]

All right. I can take a hint. Neo-Darwinist monkey theories are adult fish stories and children's fairy tales because whales walk on land, fish magically turn into amphibians, leaping lizards learn to fly like birds and hairy apes are mysteriously transformed into Neo-Darwinists by natural selection and genetic deformities.

Wow, I really would have expected better of you by now, john. What a crock of lies. You know evolutionary theory says none of these things and yet you continue to say it does. You are lying. There is no other word for it. You are saying something you have been told time and again is incorrect on this very forum.

 

[Lignoba]

im am all for evolution, however i dont think we can call anyone a liar. Evolution has not, and probably will not ever be proven.

 

[Dannager]

im am all for evolution, however i dont think we can call anyone a liar. Evolution has not, and probably will not ever be proven.

It doesn't need to be proven. He's still lying. john is claiming that evolutionary theory states something that it doesn't. Since he has been told otherwise, his statement is a lie. There is no other way of putting it. Liar is the appropriate term. In fact, john isn't claiming just one thing that evolutionary theory doesn't actually propose, he's claiming a number of things. All of the claims he has made are lies.

 

[belladonic-haze]

Well, from what I know, my grandfather wasn't a monkey. We have a common ancestor with monkeys. Creationists are right, your grandfather was not a friggin' monkey.

No...Apes, we have a common ancestor with APES!

And my great great grand father wasn't an ape either......Evolution doesn't go that quickly!

 

[Jet Black]

Normal powers of human speech ought to qualify most humans for unique membership in a Human order and family of primates.

deaf and dumb people can't speak. Do you have some sort of prejudice against disabled people or something?

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

creationist anti-disabled prejudice theorists

 

[Aron-Ra]

Creationists are right, your grandfather was not a friggin' monkey.

No...Apes, we have a common ancestor with APES!

We are apes, right now.
And your grandfather was a monkey. So was your father.

And my great great grand father wasn't an ape either......Evolution doesn't go that quickly!

Actually, he was. Look it up.
"Monkey" = any member of the sub-order, Haplorhini.
"Ape" = any member of the superfamily, Hominoidea.

 

[Beastt]

im am all for evolution, however i dont think we can call anyone a liar. Evolution has not, and probably will not ever be proven.

No theory is ever proven. Even those which have been around for centuries and are the basis for all kinds of scientific advancement aren't what one could consider absolutely proven. The reason for this is obvious. Isaac Newton came up with the basics for general gravitational theory. Even when man was beginning to send rockets into space, much of that same basic theory was being put into practice and found to be accurate. Does that prove the theory? Does it then change from theory to proven fact? No, because later Einstein showed that while Newton's basic ideas were generally accurate, there were still situations, unknown to Newton, wherein some of his observations failed to be true. So theory, no matter how accurate it may prove itself to be against the evidence at any given time, will never become "proven fact", simply because science recognizes that we never have all of the evidence. And with new evidence sometimes comes the necessity of revising theory.

 

[john crawford]

You are lying. There is no other word for it. You are saying something you have been told time and again is incorrect on this very forum.

You are lying if you say that humans in Africa originated from apes or ape ancestors.

 

[john crawford]

im am all for evolution, however i dont think we can call anyone a liar. Evolution has not, and probably will not ever be proven.

Evolutionists call Christian creationists liars all the time and then lie about human evolution from African apes or ape ancestors by saying it is a fact rather than only a neo-Darwinist racial theory.

 

[john crawford]

It doesn't need to be proven. He's still lying. john is claiming that evolutionary theory states something that it doesn't. Since he has been told otherwise, his statement is a lie. There is no other way of putting it. Liar is the appropriate term. In fact, john isn't claiming just one thing that evolutionary theory doesn't actually propose, he's claiming a number of things. All of the claims he has made are lies.

Since none of what you say is true it must be as big a lie as the neo-Darwinist lie that African people originated from apes or ape ancestors.