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My FTS Challenge

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by AV1611VET, Nov 8, 2016.

  1. -57

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    You have no proof that tis happened. What you have is plaster of parish, speculation and wild assertions.
    You can't even explain how mutations add up.
     
  2. Bugeyedcreepy

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    There's plenty of proof (evidence) and it's all been explained to you in detail repeatedly, you just don't want to understand it...
     
  3. -57

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    misspost
     
  4. Bugeyedcreepy

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    Not sure, but we'd certainly have something to investigate, no? We might have before & after X-Rays on hand to show the straightening, perhaps a video of it in action, etc... We could Praise Allah!
     
  5. Jimmy D

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    Classic Creationist denial......

    Schweitzer makes the extraordinary claim that she's found preserved soft tissue and you're all over it, imagining that it validates your ridiculous young Earth 'ideas'.

    Schweitzer comes up with a scientifically sound idea about how they were preserved for millions of years and all of a sudden she doesn't know what she's talking about.

    It would be quite sad if it wasn't so funny.

    I wonder what experiments the authors of your ICR article have done to further their case and actually demonstrate their 'beliefs' about the age of Schweitzers samples? Anything?

    The sum total of that ICR article is nitpicking Schweitzer and her teams' research (which passed peer review btw).

    Why not read through these papers which outline the research in detail rather than swallowing that lazy propaganda?

    http://www4.ncsu.edu/~mhschwei/Research_files/annurev-earth-final-published_1.pdf

    http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/281/1775/20132741
     
  6. Kylie

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    No, I got that, I just didn't think it was relevant, because that can be explained quite easily WITHOUT invoking a worldwide flood.
     
  7. mzungu

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    Even without the fossil record; DNA alone confirms Evolution.
    Case closed.
    Tea anyone?
     
  8. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    My DNA can be traced back to Sahelanthropus tchadensis, can it?

    Also, without the fossil record, isn't that like saying, "I can tell what your dad looks like by reading your DNA"?
     
  9. mzungu

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    Not yet but I certainly can tell you if he is your Dad ;)
     
  10. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    How?

    You would need my dad's DNA.

    And without his skeleton (fossil record), you're SOL (short on luck).
     
  11. mzungu

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    No AV; in order to confirm TOE all we need is DNA from living species in order to see common ancestry.
    An example being: If I take DNA from your third cousin and from you, I can confirm that both of you have a common ancestor.
     
  12. AV1611VET

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    But you can't recognize my common ancestor, can you?

    Without the fossil record, you would have to say that my oldest common ancestor was a human being just like me.

    How would you know it was some hairy goon that swung down out of the trees and lived in caves for generations?
     
  13. mzungu

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    You are missing the point AV. We dont need to know how the common ancestor looked like in order to confirm common ancestry. DNA can show when the split occured and how closely related species are. The science of genetics is the strongest tool we have confirming TOE.
    You could google it. That is if you really want to know what I am talking about.
     
  14. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    I think you do.

    Else pictures like this:

    [​IMG]

    ... wouldn't make any sense.
     
  15. mzungu

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  16. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    From your link:
    Only on paper.

    That's a lie, straight from Satan's mouth.

    We don't have a common ancestor, we have a common designer.

    And if you want to trace our DNA back properly, trace it back to Adam, who lived in 4004 BC.
     
  17. Kylie

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    We'll add DNA evidence for evolution to the ever-growing list of things you don't understand, shall we?
     
  18. Kylie

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    [​IMG]
     
  19. Kylie

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    You're going to have to do more than make a claim before I believe you.
     
  20. AV1611VET

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    Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
     
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